Trollheart

I get totally what you're talking about Guybrush. I always loved mythology - my favourite being Norse - but I never once considered the gods to be real. Same with Christianity: I love a lot of the stories from the Bible and so on, and historically it's been more or less proven that a man called Jesus did live in Nazareth at that time, but as for being the Son of God? Well, if he could perform all those miracles, why didn't he go into show business, answer me that!

So for me, I can appreciate the mythology, the stories and the figures in any "religion", but that's all they are. I can see how others might take them as literal, and if they do that's their prerogative, but not me.

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Guybrush

Perhaps you can assume there was someone called Jesus in Nazareth much in the same way you can assume there's a person called Jesus living in New York today.. or Rupert or perhaps a Jeremiah. But there's little to no historical evidence for Jesus, the character described in the new testament.

F.ex. he wasn't documented during his supposed lifetime, despite roman historians documenting going-ons in the area at that time.

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Trollheart

When I get a chance I'll have to look into it, but I'm pretty sure I saw programmes where they confirmed he lived around this time. I think, though I can't be sure, he was using the Facebook handle JESUSURSAVIOUR or possibly CARPENTRYSUX.

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I agree with this. I admire Jesus and his teachings, but disdain the Church.

"Jesus was all right, but his disciples were thick and ordinary." - John Lennon

Trollheart

I have it on fairly good authority that he was just seen leaving Chicago.

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Yes, both good and evil originally derived from religious belief. Some people have used religion as a way to gain power while others, like Martin Luther King, used religion to do good.

A more interesting person is William Jennings Bryan, the ill fated lawyer of the infamous Scopes trial. He, of course, railed against Darwinism in favor of creationism, but his reasoning wasn't out of ignorance. He hated Darwinism because of the theory of the survival of the fittest. He believed if others went with Darwinism (somewhat proven by science), it would give the more fortunate an excuse to oppress the not so fortunate in the name of natural selection. In other words, the ones with money would have a reason to exploit those that didn't have many options (i.e. the poor).

So, while teaching creationism in public schools isn't such a hot idea, you can certainly say it makes some of us feel less guilty about the natural reality of the cruelties we have imposed on others such as slavery, genocide, etc.

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I gather it’s a “Christler” hotrod.

Jesus’s message was warped by the disciples and early Church because they rejected Mary Magdalene and the sacred feminine.

Plankton

lol

It runs on water/wine.

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Trollheart

Jesus invented warp speed???
Fixed that for ya
Yeah it's really Canaan it!

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Yes, when he (very quickly) ascended to Heaven. Probably to escape Mary Mags, who was fawning over him a bit too much.