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Objection! Compound joke! ;) |
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John wrote that just before knocking off for lunch? Quote:
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Well done folks, well done. I don't think I've ever seen Star Trek referenced in a religious joke. |
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It's all good, I knew you mixed those up it was just really funny so I went with it! :D:p: [QUOTE=Lisnaholic;2211091]:laughing: OOPS! Getting old means making dumb mistakes more often than you would like! I must have confused your join date with your posting date. Sorry about any confusion I've caused in your thread, gandhara. :( |
Pretty long phase if I'm 39 and have pretty much the same beliefs since I was 15.. :rolleyes:
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NEVER give away your sources! Page one, ribbons! Page one! :laughing:
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I don't think most Pagans believe literally in the mythologies of their favored paths or cultures..They're treated as legends and stories about their gods. "Traditional" Polytheists definitely believe the gods themselves are real beings, just not the stories, at least not literally....though there may be some parts that we take more literally, it varies from Pagan to Pagan. Other Pagans actually don't believe they are real beings but more like archetypes. Wiccans for instance generally believe in Two High Deities (apart from all the various lesser spirits), a God and a Goddess, and will lump all gods and goddesses as incarnations of their highest two.
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I worship thee, my BatLORD. :love:
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Sort of...You can certainly choose which path and deities you want to follow for several reasons, You'll mostly hear from other Pagans that it's because that's who they feel most drawn to, closest to, and have had like personal experiences with. In other cases, the person may have been born into the faith. There are still places in the world where a living cultural Pagan religion still survives and where no revival is needed..Most though have been destroyed by the Monotheistic faiths.. but for those interested in reviving certain faiths there's a lot to work with. There are even really obscure faiths people are trying to revive, like the pre-Islamic Arabic traditions..where there is no even much written evidence to go by.
As for me I'm mostly interested in ancient Assyria.. I don't worship ALL of the gods though lol, mostly just the highest ones...Ashur and Mullissu the most since they're the two highest deities of the old Assyrian Empire. I occasionally honor the others. Each deity has a specific day they can be honored.. And I just wait for the specific days for Ashur and Mullissu, instead of every day (every day would be for actual priests to perform, not the average person, unless they wanted to of course). There were household protective spirits one can honor at any time as well. I usually take like a minute of my time to say a little prayer or praise for them at least once a day. I don't normally ask for much...just general stuff like protection, health, safety, prosperity....and I don't offer much either...incense, some fruit, etc.... If I had a bigger income I likely would devote more time and energy, but I'm content where I'm at so I leave it at that. Anyway, just thought I'd share a little about my own little faith. I wasn't planning on saying as much as I did tonight lol Quote:
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But yeah I believe Jesus was a historical figure who actually got crucified and that's why he's presented as such... The idea of a messiah being crucified goes completely against what the Jews believed in so to me it makes more sense that the crucifixion part is genuine. I don't at all agree that Jesus is just an archetype and not a historical figure. |
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Supposedly, it has been proven that Jesus was something of a rebel leader during his day which is what got him crucified. Crucifixions in the Roman Empire were of a daily basis at the time and Jesus was but one of many who suffered that fate. As far as the stories such as walking on water or being the world's greatest faith healer, well, I guess that falls in the mythology category.
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Hit the nail on the head. Sorry. We all got our cross to bear I guess. Well, if he was Roman all over the country slagging off Caesar, whatcha expect?
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Bart Ehrman makes the point that the only better attested person who lived in 1st century Palestine was Josephus, who is only better attested because he left his own writing.
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What about Tiberius?
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Is that a deed nuts joke?
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If it's a joke I don't get it.
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Nah I'm just dumb he lived in Italy.
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I don't agree really. Not the biblical version of events. Jesus had little to no antagonism towards or problems with Roman authorities prior to the crucifixion. According to the new testament the people he pissed off were Jewish religious authorities specifically. And the areas where he is somewhat subversive it's more aimed at religious tradition than anything else.
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Yeah it's really a case of God, through his sprog, saying to the Jews "You guys think you have it all figured out but this is how it is." And the Jews going "Oh yeah? Well, what if we just crucify your son, huh?" And then God "You'd better not, or all my followers will hate you throughout eternity." Jews shrug. "Meh. What's the worst thing that could happen?"
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