Russia, Ukraine and World War III

Trollheart · 01-24-2022, 02:50 PM

Surprised nobody has made this thread already but anyhoo...

https://www.rte.ie/news/2022/0124/12...ussia-ukraine/

CNN: News Alert: US places up to 8,500 troops on alert for possible deployment amid Russia tensions

Up to 8,500 US troops have been put on heightened alert to deploy as Russian troops mass on Ukraine's border, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said Monday.

US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin issued the prepare to deploy orders at the direction of President Joe Biden.

Kirby said no final decision to deploy the troops had been made.

Comments? Predictions? US has 8,500 troops ready to go, Europe via NATO moving in forces, Russia conducting "military exercises" off the Irish coastline.

Are we scared yet?

**Frownland** · 01-24-2022, 03:41 PM

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The Batlord · 01-24-2022, 03:57 PM

Nothing liked reheated memes.

Norg · 01-24-2022, 07:41 PM

Why would the western powers much less USA care about eastern Ukraine there not a NATO member ...???? the Russians just want to connect a land bridge to crimea basically everything east of the Volga which they could prob do in about 30 or 45 mins

USA prob shouldnt get involved and just leave it to germany and france let the ol Euro vs euro war happen seems like there just itching

besides if USA gets tied down in europe china will just have a free hand at Tawain while usa is tied down

this wont go NUclear i bet both sides have a secret agreement

Trollheart · 01-24-2022, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

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You have secret, classified documents we're not aware of? When was World War III? Did I blink and miss it?

Raime · 01-24-2022, 09:35 PM

This is just saber rattling. Putin isn't an idiot, he's pretty good at gauging when to be aggressive, and pull back and wait. I'd be very surprised if this led to an actual armed conflict between the US and Russia to be honest. Ukraine wouldn't even be accepted as a NATO member for at least another decade or two because of the amount of corruption in their government, even Biden has said so. As much as I dislike Putin as a leader, he's far more cunning than a lot of Western leaders I feel like.

Trollheart · 01-24-2022, 10:07 PM

Yeah well you don't have their battleships "running exercises" off your coastline!

Psy-Fi · 01-25-2022, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Raime

This is just saber rattling. Putin isn't an idiot, he's pretty good at gauging when to be aggressive, and pull back and wait. I'd be very surprised if this led to an actual armed conflict between the US and Russia to be honest. Ukraine wouldn't even be accepted as a NATO member for at least another decade or two because of the amount of corruption in their government, even Biden has said so. As much as I dislike Putin as a leader, he's far more cunning than a lot of Western leaders I feel like.

FETCHER. · 01-25-2022, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Yeah well you don't have their battleships "running exercises" off your coastline!

There was some sort of jets doing training exercises here last week. I haven’t read too much in to it but it’s apparently because those battleships are on their way

Trollheart · 01-25-2022, 08:10 AM

It certainly doesn't help for some security expert to call Ireland the "back door" to Europe!

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2022...275385-russia/

A security analyst has said that Russia has chosen to carry out missile tests off the coast of Ireland to "send a message" to Europe and NATO.

Dr Tom Clonan described Ireland as being a "weak link" in Europe when it comes to security and defence.

"Ireland is responsible for 220 million maritime acres of ocean, but we can't patrol it. We have nine ships, four of them are tied up with crew shortages. We can't see into our airpace, as we are the only country in the EU with no primary radar," he said.

He said that we have one of the busiest air corridors in Europe, with 75% of traffic from the EU and Middle East going through Irish airspace, but that we are "effectively relying on the RAF in Britain" to control our skies.

"The Russians are sending a very clear signal to Europe that Ireland is Europe's weakest link when it comes to defence; in security, in the air, at sea and in our cyber domain," he said.

"They do nothing by mistake, they're sending a message to the EU and NATO that 'your defence is weak and this is our back door into Europe'."

01-24-2022, 02:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Russia, Ukraine and World War III Surprised nobody has made this thread already but anyhoo... https://www.rte.ie/news/2022/0124/12...ussia-ukraine/ CNN: News Alert: US places up to 8,500 troops on alert for possible deployment amid Russia tensions Up to 8,500 US troops have been put on heightened alert to deploy as Russian troops mass on Ukraine's border, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said Monday. US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin issued the prepare to deploy orders at the direction of President Joe Biden. Kirby said no final decision to deploy the troops had been made. Comments? Predictions? US has 8,500 troops ready to go, Europe via NATO moving in forces, Russia conducting "military exercises" off the Irish coastline. Are we scared yet? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

01-24-2022, 03:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
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01-24-2022, 10:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Yeah well you don't have their battleships "running exercises" off your coastline! __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

01-25-2022, 08:10 AM	#10 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	It certainly doesn't help for some security expert to call Ireland the "back door" to Europe! https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2022...275385-russia/ A security analyst has said that Russia has chosen to carry out missile tests off the coast of Ireland to "send a message" to Europe and NATO. Dr Tom Clonan described Ireland as being a "weak link" in Europe when it comes to security and defence. "Ireland is responsible for 220 million maritime acres of ocean, but we can't patrol it. We have nine ships, four of them are tied up with crew shortages. We can't see into our airpace, as we are the only country in the EU with no primary radar," he said. He said that we have one of the busiest air corridors in Europe, with 75% of traffic from the EU and Middle East going through Irish airspace, but that we are "effectively relying on the RAF in Britain" to control our skies. "The Russians are sending a very clear signal to Europe that Ireland is Europe's weakest link when it comes to defence; in security, in the air, at sea and in our cyber domain," he said. "They do nothing by mistake, they're sending a message to the EU and NATO that 'your defence is weak and this is our back door into Europe'." __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

01-24-2022, 07:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
Norg Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,358	Why would the western powers much less USA care about eastern Ukraine there not a NATO member ...???? the Russians just want to connect a land bridge to crimea basically everything east of the Volga which they could prob do in about 30 or 45 mins USA prob shouldnt get involved and just leave it to germany and france let the ol Euro vs euro war happen seems like there just itching besides if USA gets tied down in europe china will just have a free hand at Tawain while usa is tied down this wont go NUclear i bet both sides have a secret agreement