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Old 08-02-2022, 10:19 PM   #451 (permalink)
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That's ok. I have more than enough beer in the refrigerator.
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Old 08-02-2022, 10:26 PM   #452 (permalink)
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Just a guess, but Biden called on Congress to pass the CHIPS Act (which he's expected to sign next week) in his State of the Union address. He wants to subsidize domestic chip manufacturing. Taiwan currently provides the vast majority of US microchips. Pelosi's trip could be a way to reassure Taiwan that we're not planning on abandoning them in business relations or arms sales, and by Pelosi not backing down after vague Chinese threats, it also bolsters trust in other alliances of the US with foreign countries that involve arms deals and business relations that may be under threat by other large powers. As it stands, to my knowledge, the US is under no obligation to defend Taiwan in the case of a Chinese military takeover, but it's not off the table. It would have to be approved by Congress though.

In short, my understanding of the motives for her trip, geopolitical advantages.

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Old 08-02-2022, 10:28 PM   #453 (permalink)
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Yeah, that makes sense. Biden campaigned on a "buy/produce local" type mandate, didn't he?
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Old 08-02-2022, 10:38 PM   #454 (permalink)
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Yeah, that makes sense. Biden campaigned on a "buy/produce local" type mandate, didn't he?
Sort of, he did mention it before being elected and there has been movement on it. I don't remember it being a big part of his campaign promises, but I could be wrong. Here's more on the latest on that, it's all basically refinements and/or additions to Hoover's 1933 "Buy American Act" - there's a lot of caveats and exceptions though.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...e-all-product/

Perspective from an American: I'm all on board with this, but I wouldn't want it taken to an extreme. The reason so many US consumer goods are cheap is because we can import them for a much lower cost than we can manufacture them domestically. But certain essential goods, like medicine and microchips need to have a strong domestic production base, because if they don't, then you find yourself in a difficult situation when the supply chain is completely disrupted by something unexpected like the pandemic. We saw that, for example, with medicines during the pandemic. The vast majority of the US's pharmaceutical imports are sourced from China. There was a lot of talk of decoupling from China during the pandemic - again, it would be unwise to do so to an extreme, but bolstering our domestic production base for some of these products seems like a prudent thing to do.

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Obama wouldn't have a beer with anyone not famous.
didn't he literally have a beer with that cop that harassed that black professor who he thought was trying to break into his own home?

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Obama was the first president to brew beer in the White House. Andrew Jackson would've been proud.

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Sounds like she's being provocative. And Biden was against it? Has he no power over his ****ing people at all? Can you imagine that happening under Der Trump? Think they'd be able to get away with that? Oh man! I just complimented Mister Orange! GAAAAHHHH!!

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Old 08-02-2022, 11:18 PM   #457 (permalink)
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didn't he literally have a beer with that cop that harassed that black professor who he thought was trying to break into his own home?

CV, you know what you need to do bud
Hey I'm not trying to take away from his cred as a soulless politician.
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Soulless? The man had Wet Leg on his Summer Spotify playlist.
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Obama wouldn't have a beer with anyone not famous.
Nah, Obama came to Ireland and had beer in a pub with a bunch of Micks that weren't in the least famous.
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Just a guess, but Biden called on Congress to pass the CHIPS Act (which he's expected to sign next week) in his State of the Union address. He wants to subsidize domestic chip manufacturing. Taiwan currently provides the vast majority of US microchips. Pelosi's trip could be a way to reassure Taiwan that we're not planning on abandoning them in business relations or arms sales, and by Pelosi not backing down after vague Chinese threats, it also bolsters trust in other alliances of the US with foreign countries that involve arms deals and business relations that may be under threat by other large powers. As it stands, to my knowledge, the US is under no obligation to defend Taiwan in the case of a Chinese military takeover, but it's not off the table. It would have to be approved by Congress though.

In short, my understanding of the motives for her trip, geopolitical advantages.
Thanks. That's a really good way to explain it. I (sort of) get it now. Let me just close the window; sounds like some sort of whistling sound outside, like the sort of thing a Chinese missile would...

No seriously; well explained.
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Nah, Obama came to Ireland and had beer in a pub with a bunch of Micks that weren't in the least famous.
With a camera in tow?
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