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Old 03-04-2022, 06:22 PM   #211 (permalink)
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America Derangement Syndrome

I mean I hate America too, but in moderation. Hate responsibly.
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Old 03-04-2022, 07:49 PM   #212 (permalink)
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Old 03-04-2022, 08:46 PM   #213 (permalink)
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We have control over what our country does if we consider ourselves better than Russia's autocracy, and therefore it only makes sense to focus on our role

that's not narcissism, that's being serious
I mean to the extent that we have any control of our country our country actually has the ability to influence Russian policy through sanctions and NATO. And considering that our powerlessness makes us spectators watching television this essentially reduces us to idiots hoping the cultivation of sensible takes will influence a future movement that might conceivably have power. And the sensible take is to reject real politick and side with people being invaded by *******s.
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Old 03-05-2022, 09:27 AM   #214 (permalink)
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I mean to the extent that we have any control of our country our country actually has the ability to influence Russian policy through sanctions and NATO. And considering that our powerlessness makes us spectators watching television this essentially reduces us to idiots hoping the cultivation of sensible takes will influence a future movement that might conceivably have power. And the sensible take is to reject real politick and side with people being invaded by *******s.
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Chomsky's take is right on, (as per usual)
This is off topic, but no, Noam Chomsky is not always right on



Why Noam Chomsky is garbage
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Old 03-05-2022, 11:00 AM   #216 (permalink)
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Oh well now that you mention it, I guess Chomsky isn't a genocide apologist.
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Old 03-05-2022, 11:21 AM   #217 (permalink)
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Old 03-05-2022, 11:25 AM   #218 (permalink)
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Shame on Chomsky for saying in his 1999 book that the trials against Croatians that occurred in the 2000s hadn't happened. Pure clairvoyance or gtfo.

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To only and always concentrate on America is America-centric narcissism. Did America make Russia invade Ukraine? Did America make Russia invade Georgia? Did America make Russia bomb Chechnya into powder? Perhaps it's possible for two countries to be unscrupulous imperialists who are never going to change until they no longer exist.
We've assisted with establishing modern imperialist norms and are a bulk of the threat that makes those regions strategically valuable for Russia. Rejecting that is just American exceptionalism.
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We have control over what our country does if we consider ourselves better than Russia's autocracy, and therefore it only makes sense to focus on our role

that's not narcissism, that's being serious
When did this happen?
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