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Old 08-17-2021, 03:38 PM   #111 (permalink)
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Foucault argued we are physically incapable of even imagining a fundamentally different system as long as we are under the constraints of culture

he argued, for example, communism was a failure because it was still fundamentally a bourgeoisie class type system
Does he explain what we do when we see other systems?
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Old 08-27-2021, 07:10 PM   #112 (permalink)
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Anyone still thinking bidens move in afghanistan is not a massive failure?
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Old 08-27-2021, 07:20 PM   #113 (permalink)
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The last twenty years were a failure. Getting out just made obvious it was all a grift. To think pulling out is a failure you either have to be a neolib who dreams of imperialism disguised as nation building or a neocon who jerks off to imperialist resource extraction.
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Or just someone with eyes who watches what's happening and how obviously bad it looks and how Biden is getting smeared around the world as weak and indecisive. I'm thinking we are possibly looking at another one termer.
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Americans won't care in a month.
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And let's just say Biden reneged on the peace agreement with the Taliban. They're stronger and better equipped than ever and they own the roads. You'd be talking about a renewed invasion that would start racking up American bodies again. Not a good look either.
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And let's just say Biden reneged on the peace agreement with the Taliban. They're stronger and better equipped than ever and they own the roads. You'd be talking about a renewed invasion that would start racking up American bodies again. Not a good look either.
sounds like a false dichotomy

You think the way this withdrawal was executed seems close to the best case scenario of what could have happened? Cause to me it seems much closer to a worst case. Seems completely botched even if the general idea of "withdrawing" was worth pursuing there's no reason to assume that what we are watching right now is actually a well thought out execution of that move. Seems like the intelligence was severely flawed and quite frankly we got caught with our pants down as we are desperately trying to flee the country while still sending reinforcements to try to stop the bleeding as we flee and completely abandon everyone stuck there.
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Nation Stunned that 20 Year Catastrophe Could End So Catastrophically

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**** , Biden was the one on TV telling us the afghan military stood a chance lol
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It looks like the decision (correct imo) was taken by him alone, whereas the people tasked with handling the logistics of the pullout (the military brass) thought it was a terrible idea and had zero interest in ensuring it go down smoothly, to the extent this was possible.
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So you're saying the president has control over whether we pull out but no control over how that is implemented or executed? I tend to doubt that.

Either way when they get a victory they are quick to claim credit for that. So guess what? When you **** **** up that's on you, too
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