Second Amendment Discussion

Trollheart · 01-28-2021, 07:28 PM

See, you Americans are weird. As far as I know, in no other country is it legal for a private citizen to carry a gun; the only people allowed to be armed are certain police and the military. So how do you - non-Americans too - feel about the 2nd Amendment? Does it need to be tightened up? Is it fine as it is? Should I just raise my hands and back slowly away?

OccultHawk · 01-28-2021, 07:40 PM

Ban all guns.

But start with the government. Start with the nukes. Work your way down to the cops’ pistols. Then start disarming civilians.

Trollheart · 01-29-2021, 11:01 AM

This from a man whose current response to most things is

OccultHawk · 01-29-2021, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

This from a man whose current response to most things is

What part of start with the government confused you?

SGR · 01-29-2021, 11:09 AM

In a way, I agree with Hawk. Though I'm not in favor of banning guns in general.

Gun control is gun centralizaiton. Need guns to enforce gun control. Need guns to enforce taxation. I'll give up my guns when the government gives up their guns.

To be more specific, I'm not opposed to more checks and balances - strong background checks, closing gun show loopholes, etc.

Trollheart · 01-29-2021, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

What part of start with the government confused you?

The ban all guns part.
So are you going to use guns to disarm the Feds, and then, what? Throw yours away? Melt them down into ploughshares? Violence don't defeat violence and two wrongs don't make a Republican senator on Capitol Hill.

Mindy · 01-29-2021, 11:38 AM

shall not be infringed...

I feel it shouldn't be tightened to citizens. I wrote a whole essay on this at university and the only thing I thought needed to be infringed, (if that's your argument), was registration annually. We register vehicles here in Connecticut every year but not weapons.

To the best of my knowledge at least because I don't own any weapons now. So they may already have some registration program.

OccultHawk · 01-29-2021, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

The ban all guns part.
So are you going to use guns to disarm the Feds, and then, what? Throw yours away? Melt them down into ploughshares? Violence don't defeat violence and two wrongs don't make a Republican senator on Capitol Hill.

Yes. If the government completely disarms I will too. I genuinely mean it when I say I want to ban all guns. There has to be a sane process though.

Right now we have a system that allows power hungry senile angry narcissistic lunatics (and that’s ANY president) access to the nuclear football. That’s insane. There’s a starting point and it’s not my revolver. My revolver is literally last. But unlike other gun control advocates I have a sincere position to eliminate ALL guns and all weaponry from the planet. I believe in banning ALL guns.

**Frownland** · 01-29-2021, 11:52 AM

There were some lower court rulings dating back to the 1980s iirc, but the second amendment as a protection of individual gun rights was only just established by the supreme court in 2008.

OccultHawk · 01-29-2021, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness

shall not be infringed...

I feel it shouldn't be tightened to citizens. I wrote a whole essay on this at university and the only thing I thought needed to be infringed, (if that's your argument), was registration annually. We register vehicles here in Connecticut every year but not weapons.

To the best of my knowledge at least because I don't own any weapons now. So they may already have some registration program.

You shoulda kept the original.

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01-29-2021, 11:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mindy ask me about cosmology Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Milky Way Galaxy Posts: 9,023	shall not be infringed... I feel it shouldn't be tightened to citizens. I wrote a whole essay on this at university and the only thing I thought needed to be infringed, (if that's your argument), was registration annually. We register vehicles here in Connecticut every year but not weapons. To the best of my knowledge at least because I don't own any weapons now. So they may already have some registration program. __________________ https://www.instagram.com/shhons_meme_agency Last edited by Mindy; 01-29-2021 at 11:50 AM.

01-29-2021, 11:09 AM	#5 (permalink)
SGR No Ice In My Bourbon Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: /dev/null Posts: 4,326	In a way, I agree with Hawk. Though I'm not in favor of banning guns in general. Gun control is gun centralizaiton. Need guns to enforce gun control. Need guns to enforce taxation. I'll give up my guns when the government gives up their guns. To be more specific, I'm not opposed to more checks and balances - strong background checks, closing gun show loopholes, etc.

01-29-2021, 11:52 AM	#9 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	There were some lower court rulings dating back to the 1980s iirc, but the second amendment as a protection of individual gun rights was only just established by the supreme court in 2008. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x