The "Good News" Thread

[Marie Monday]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I’m well aware of who they are and what they did. Are you really aware of what the Eagles are and what they did?

Weaksauce, don't try to dodge my argument
also biatch, you didn't know **** about Bikini Kill before I came here

[Plankton]

Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks

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It'll probably get worse before it gets better, but **** yes.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Exo

About the same as Outlaws and Steely Dan.

Bikini Kill didn’t add anything more to punk than Steely Dan did to classic rock.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Marie Monday

Weaksauce, don't try to dodge my argument

The truth is, Bikini Kill is a great band but you overrate them because you find them relatable. I’m not dodging your argument. I’m explaining to you that Bikini Kill weren’t anywhere close to being punk pioneers.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Marie Monday

Weaksauce, don't try to dodge my argument
also biatch, you didn't know **** about Bikini Kill before I came here

Uh, I literally lived in PNW and watched that entire movement grow in real time as it happened. I knew what they doing over in Olympia and gave it the attention it deserved.

I revisited it because of you, that’s true, but AFAIK you never even saw them live.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by Marie Monday

I don't know those other bands you mention, but the Eagles to me have kind of a proto-buttrock vibe that CSNY has not; they're sublime. That's obvious prejudice though because I happen to love CSNY, but I do think they're much better and more sophisticated. And sure, I'm not taking that one youtube comment very seriously.
Anyway, cheers to not giving a ****, that's the spirit!

Hey, when among your favourite bands are Bon Jovi, ELO, The Eagles (!), Genesis and The Alan Parsons Project, you learn pretty quickly that people are going to slag you over what they consider your "poor music taste". But I don't hold it against them: they can be into what they want to be into and I won't condemn them for that. By the same token they shouldn't be able to condemn me for being into, say, Bon Jovi or Journey. They can, but it's raining and I'm a duck these days.

This is why I date my MB membership from 2011 even though I officially joined in 2008. I got so upset with people being "mean" to me that I left for three years. When I came back I was clad in the armour of IDGAF, and it's served me well.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

As a listener if you like punk but not the Eagles what you really like is the idea of punk and not the idea of the Eagles. The Eagles have great songs. If you can’t see that then you need to take off your blinders.

Church

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I’m not ignoring you. I just think you’ve heard the songs. If they don’t resonate with you then fine. They’re in the same family of artists though.

Yeah you're unlikely to find an Eagles song that suddenly makes you see the light. You either like them or you don't. If you've heard any of their hits, nobody here is going to be able to change your mind if you don't like them.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

The truth is, Bikini Kill is a great band but you overrate them because you find them relatable. I’m not dodging your argument. I’m explaining to you that Bikini Kill weren’t anywhere close to being punk pioneers.

This is kind of the same argument Marie is making when saying punks hated The Eagles but not CSNY; just because you liked the band doesn't remove them from being in the same general sphere as Eagles. I love Genesis, but would never for a moment contest the idea that they were a major target of the punk movement. You can't pick and choose: if it's country rock then it's all country rock, or Americana, or roots rock, or whatever the damn hell you want to call it.

[Marie Monday]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

The truth is, Bikini Kill is a great band but you overrate them because you find them relatable. I’m not dodging your argument. I’m explaining to you that Bikini Kill weren’t anywhere close to being punk pioneers.

No, I don't. They absolutely were punk pioneers; you underrate their importance to (especially) female punk.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Uh, I literally lived in PNW and watched that entire movement grow in real time as it happened. I knew what they doing over in Olympia and gave it the attention it deserved.

I revisited it because of you, that’s true, but AFAIK you never even saw them live.

If you had given them attention then you'd have given them their due. You lived there (you're implying you even saw them live) and still managed to miss the point of riot grrrl; you literally said that you had overlooked Bikini Kill when you actually discovered they were good because I keep fangirling over them.
And whether I've seen Bikini Kill live or not is just a nonsense argument

[The Batlord]

Anytime anyone challenges OH on music he turns into Reese Witherspoon asking a cop "Do you know who I am?"

[Marie Monday]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Anytime anyone challenges OH on music he turns into Reese Witherspoon asking a cop "Do you know who I am?"

...and starts being patronising. Im ExPLaInIng To YoU

[The Batlord]

Well you are a girl, and girls are liable to listen to music wrong by relating to artists.