I think I'm not pathetic enough to obsess over that.

what family is that exactly? I don't get the comparison at all

A lot of people say no limit's main achievement was selling a ****load of records with no real talent. While I like their sound... Its sorta true that master p and silk the shocker can't really rap to save their lives... But I just like the way it sounds plus it has nostalgic value for me

I wasn't ever gonna go out of my way to trash the eagles but if you're saying if you don't love them there's something wrong with you... Apparently there's something wrong with me cause to me they just seem boring.

Yeah good point, bat. Knowing a lot about music makes me a loser.

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This is not a line-of-influence drawing contest dude

edit: I didn't even notice the painting in this version of the meme lol. I'm keeping it, as a symbol of the Big Picture

Raw ass DIY hip hop with underground origins that mostly only resonates with deep dish fans.

Yeah. I mean I can’t argue with taste. Also, you don’t get on a pedestal and say they’re trash. You just say you don’t like them. I understand that.

I think they have good songs that everyone should be able to enjoy but you’re not like hey listen Hawk I can tell you what’s what.

Plus, I always respect where you come from with hip hop because the artists you like always have a gritty genuine feel to their music. When you post a YouTube link I always listen.

I think you like what you like and I also like what you like. There’s a difference between saying I find the Eagles boring and saying the Eagles are boring. I’d probably be disappointed if you liked the Eagles because it’s not your way and I respect that.

It is when you’re claiming you know Bikini Kill’s place in the overall picture of punk rock.

Are they top 20. If so list them out. Exactly where are they?

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You're inflating my claims in the hope they won't fit through the gate you're trying to keep.

Loser loser nerd dork butthead.

So you don’t know where the **** they rank.

I think they’re a great band and your journal is great. And carving out a punk space comparable to the Eagles in yacht rock is an astonishing accomplishment. I’m not dissing them.

I'm just not taking your bait. I'm aware you're not trying to diss them, you're busy dissing yourself

I'm still failing to understand how the Eagles are in that family. To me they come across was a very polished and somewhat generic form of classic rock.



I think possibly they have some nostalgic value for you that say Tupac or No Limit have for me.

Where as bands like the Eagles I associate with my early childhood hearing it at bbqs and on classic rock stations. That was long before I was at all interested in music, so part of the problem is that long before I could appreciate music, I had already heard Hotel California 20,000 times and it was already old, stale, boring. Basically my parents music. Plus I'm just not generally into the kinds of long sentimental classic rock ballads they have. Desperadooooo... I know I'm meant to feel something but I'm ****ing falling asleep over here here :laughing:

Its like stairway to heaven.. I couldn't possibly be more bored if I tried

I get a similar thing with songs like Free Bird but as far as southern rock goes, I'd take skynyrd over the eagles any day. The beef between them and Neil Young was hilarious. Speaking of which Neil Young is one of the goats to me.

Not the Eagles doofus. Three 6 Mafia.

Word up on all of that.

oh.. yeah I didn't quite get that comparison either. I like three 6 yeah

Do you disagree on stairway to heaven/long sentimental rock ballads? To me stairway to heaven had potential if It were possible to speed the process up. It just takes too long to get there and the climax isn't interesting enough to justify that. But that could be my ADD talking. To me the best part of the song is the flute at the very beginning :laughing:

Also... With regard to 3 6 being in the same family as No limit... Its funny cause they both have the sort of low budget production and are both southern so I can see some similarities there, but I wouldn't exactly put them in the same family for a number of reasons.

3 6 is closer to the horrorcore type genre where you have a lot of crossover appeal to people who maybe don't usually listen to hip hop. A lot of white fans of 3 6 etc who don't follow hip hop as a whole, because of their sort of cult following.

No Limit is not a group with a dedicated cult fan base like 3 6. They were underground for a time but only locally. When they blew up, they blew up big and dominated the rap charts for a good year or 2 with dozens of high selling albums. Then they were almost immediately replaced by cash money and have languished in rich obscurity ever since.

Its not common for people to retroactively get into no limit. Not saying it can't happen but that's not their legacy. Their legacy in hip hop is impactful but actually skewed pretty negative by most people. Where as 3 6 mafia is more of a fringe group.

I love Stairway.

It’s not my favorite rock epic whatever you call it.

I like Free Bird and Styx Come Sail Away better

I love love love listening to Stairway backwards though

Great analysis. I agree completely.

I actually used to love that Styx song when I was a kid lol. Can't listen to it anymore though. I also loved Bohemian Rhapsody. I didn't know it was about him getting aids or whatever... I thought it was literally about his mom shooting him lol. I still like that one but there are other queen songs like we are the champions etc which are boring to me now cause they got so overplayed.

iah though I probably prefer certain no limit tracks to anything 3 6 ever made personally.. I would also give them more credit than no limit as far as creating a unique sound production wise.

I assume you're talking about old school Three Six (same era as No Limit). Their later stuff, like Most Known Unkown definitely had a much more polished sound.

I personally think this was the best cut Three Six ever put to tape.



As for No Limit, I think a lot of those guys (and Mia X of course) could easily go toe-to-toe with a lot of the rappers that are popular today in terms of their ability to rap. I supposed it help that their beats almost always went hard. No Limit also really mastered posse cuts as a means to cross-promote.



It's interesting when you're talking about most peoples' views on groups like Three Six, No Limit, and Cash Money retrospectively. I suppose it is unlikely you're going to see a publication like Rolling Stone or Pitchfork do glowing retrospectives on Ice Cream Man or Chopper City in the Ghetto, but I'd bet that if you were talking to big fans of the genre, there's going to be serious respect for what those guys achieved. I gotta say though, as for why Cash Money eclipsed No Limit, I think a lot of it had to with Mannie Fresh's production chops - like man, I still love this tune.

this one jams hard

NYTimes

I’m gonna go with an unusual cup is “half” full optimism on this one.

Especially considering those have mostly been allocated for the elderly that’s a lot less future deaths. March should really look like a new day.

Go Team Biden!

Coronavirus cases have dropped at U.S. nursing homes and other long-term care facilities over the past few weeks, offering a glimmer of hope that health officials attribute to the start of vaccinations

The AP

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Lends new meaning to the phrase living in a cardboard box, huh?

I remember hearing about the prospect of 3D printed housing in China years ago. Kind of surprised to see this happen in Mexico. Is it really cheaper to print a house than to build it the old fashioned way?

Mexico just beat them to the punch.

Goddamn. It’s almost like a real thought snuck in there. Keep going.

Fake it til you make it

I feel intuitively that the"home owner's property value" won't be the top priority. They've let that house of cards come tumbling down before. You're underestimating our overlords if you think they can't somehow turn the 3d printed house thing to their advantage

Used to be only coke dealers and wall street guys could afford cell phones, now homeless people have smart phones. And in the process of making it available for us all the rich only got richer.

It really wasn't.

Hundreds of people are volunteering to escort elderly Asian Americans to help keep them safe https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/15/us/vo...rnd/index.html

So often these things end in tragedy, delighted to see a happy result here.
Toddler missing for three days in Australian bush found safe

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