Joe Biden Love Thread

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

I swear to god Lisna we'll get that liberalism out of you if we have to beat it out with a shovel.

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

(then checks to see that my address is not in my "User CP" profile)

I absolutely guarantee that the only shovel Batty has ever lifted was made of pixels and used to knock out a hobgoblin or a mutant king or something.

Originally Posted by rubber soul

Call me a pessimist but I have faith in the American people- that we will screw it up yet again.

Nice to meet you, Mr. Pessimist. What does the "A" stand for?

I'm afraid they already have. Two Democrats who aren't really Democrats have already said no to much of the bills. With our luck, we'll be lucky to fix the cities' potholes.

Very important not to have people falling through the road when they're lighting up a spliff (or whatever the terminology is you kids use today grumble grumble mutter mutter)

Originally Posted by Exo

Wear them when you're feeling sick though. I wear mine in public places that people HAVE to go to. Doctor, food market, post office, liquor store, general service places...

I don't wear mine in my shop because I have a sign outside saying I'm vaccinated. I also run a specialty shop. You don't HAVE to come here.

However, if I have a cough or a sneeze or runny nose, you bet your ass I'm wearing that mask all day and getting tested.

Society rules have changed a bit. It's no different than NOT sneezing in a strangers face. You would never do that. It's a thing you do to be able to live in a civilized society. I think wearing a mask if you're sick or near at risk people should be automatic as stopping at red lights because society deemed it safer.

These people that cough in others faces because they like Trump need to be cast out of this world. They have decided not to play ball. F*ck them.

Last week was the first time I saw people in a supermarket not wearing masks. It was weird. I continue to wear mine though, as we've been told to. Not only for my sake but Karen's too obviously.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by rubber soul

Not a chance. Not only is she way too easy to demonize, she refuses to compromise even with mainstream liberals and her politics makes Bernie Sanders look like a Reaganite.

That's a good thing because establishment democrats are so invested in castrating themselves in capitulance to their image of what the GOP expects, then they chop a little further in the name of negotiation. A willingness to compromise across the aisle and not within their own party will likely be the undoing of said mainstream liberals as well.

Pretty sure sexism would get in the way of her campaign more than anything tbh.

[jwb]

Nobody is hardly wearing them here. If nobody else is then what makes you think I'm such a good person that I'll wear one anyway lol

Most rules i follow more out of social and or legal pressure rather than genuinely believing in them....

[Frownland]

That's very tough of you, jwb.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by Frownland

That's a good thing because establishment democrats are so invested in castrating themselves in capitulance to their image of what the GOP expects, then they chop a little further in the name of negotiation. A willingness to compromise across the aisle and not within their own party will likely be the undoing of said mainstream liberals as well.

Good point. I deleted the part about sexism obviously but otherwise yeah i agree.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by Frownland

That's very tough of you, jwb.

thanks dad

[Marie Monday]

Originally Posted by rubber soul

Not a chance. Not only is she way too easy to demonize, she refuses to compromise even with mainstream liberals and her politics makes Bernie Sanders look like a Reaganite.

Dude that's the most effective AOC sales talk I've ever heard

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Frownland

That's a good thing because establishment democrats are so invested in castrating themselves in capitulance to their image of what the GOP expects, then they chop a little further in the name of negotiation. A willingness to compromise across the aisle and not within their own party will likely be the undoing of said mainstream liberals as well.

Pretty sure sexism would get in the way of her campaign more than anything tbh.

Tbf they're not even really compromising most of the time. They're throwing the fight cause the US as it exists is basically how they want it, assuming the Republicans quit being so gosh durn difficult. They compromise cause they don't have much they really want to fight for, which is why they're at best temporary allies with the left against the right. They simply can't be worked with long-term.

[SGR]

Originally Posted by Marie Monday

Dude that's the most effective AOC sales talk I've ever heard

I think AOC can do for the Democrats what Trump did for Republicans (a lot of grey area there, I get it - but specifically I mean she could lead the party in a new, more progressive direction and she's strong willed enough to not make unnecessary concessions to appease the party writ large).

A lot of these arguments being made against AOC could've been made against Trump before he was elected. Despite some of the arguments having truth to them, Trump got elected anyway.

Not that I'm saying it would be a good thing overall, but if Trump got re-elected, it might be the best thing to happen for the future of the Democratic party.

I think AOC has the star power, influence, and media know-how to outmaneuver most of her opponents. And, unlike Trump, she actually has experience in government too. Maybe she won't win her first bid for president - maybe she'll soften some of her positions - but she'll eventually be in the White House. If I'm wrong, I'll eat my hat.

P.S. Imagine how effective AOC would be at trolling the right on Twitter.

Originally Posted by Frownland

Pretty sure sexism would get in the way of her campaign more than anything tbh.

With boomers and many on the right, sure. I think Millennials and Gen-Z are soon to be the biggest voting bloc in the US though (most left-leaning). And I don't think sexism is as big of a hang-up for them - the only problem is how do you get them out to vote? Bernie couldn't solve that problem.

[Exo]

Originally Posted by SGR

A lot of these arguments being made against AOC could've been made against Trump before he was elected. Despite some of the arguments having truth to them, Trump got elected anyway.

Please don't compare AOC to a man that has multiple sexual assault allegations, multiple racial discrimination complaints, and a vast history of discrimination against pretty much anything on this planet that isn't a white male.

Thanks.