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Old 08-25-2022, 02:22 PM   #351 (permalink)
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I'll be really surprised if he manages to get this loan forgiveness thing passed. My understanding is that a lot of Dems don't even support it. I still have some student loans I'm paying off, so it'd basically wipe them out. I wouldn't complain. All these people saying: "Well what about the people who didn't go to school, and what about the people who already paid off their loans?" - hate to break it to these folks, but every time tax codes change, someone is getting fvcked over.

If you're a big friggin bank who's failing because you doled out bad loans, the government will bail you out with taxpayer dollars, why shouldn't we get bailed out for once, for signing up for predatory loans (when we weren't even old enough to buy our own beer)?

Again though, it's not a done deal, and I'm not getting my hopes up. Probably just more fodder to get people out to vote (D) in the midterms with no real chance of passing. Best case scenario would still involve Sinema and Manchin stonewalling it. And even getting votes from the other Dems would be a long shot.

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Old 08-25-2022, 03:06 PM   #352 (permalink)
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Wait is this not an executive order?
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Old 08-25-2022, 03:17 PM   #353 (permalink)
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Wait is this not an executive order?
Oh looks like it is - my bad - still, I can't imagine this thing won't get caught up in courts.

For some reason, none of the stories I read the other day thought it necessary to mention it was an executive order.
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I don't know if the court would have jurisdiction in this case but I would hope they'd just leave this alone to keep from antagonizing Biden as he's been unreceptive to court packing by this point but who ****ing knows. Maybe Dark Brandon will get willed into existence despite the irony.
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Old 08-25-2022, 03:32 PM   #355 (permalink)
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I don't know if the court would have jurisdiction in this case but I would hope they'd just leave this alone to keep from antagonizing Biden as he's been unreceptive to court packing by this point but who ****ing knows. Maybe Dark Brandon will get willed into existence despite the irony.
He does have an acutely mean side to his nice guy public facade that he could use, problem is, he aint popular among his own party as it is.

But he's still the president, if he wants to get **** done, he better get while the gettin is good. If he was truly serious about this though, you'd think he'd have coordinated with Obama in terms of the PR for this loan forgiveness announcement. I haven't heard anything from Obama about it yet.

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I think the unironic rise of Dark Brandon shows that his supporters would side with him even if he threw out the respectability politics. Just imagine if Plan Columbia Joe felt there was no political option but to attack attack attack. Just imagine if Cornpop Joe was forced to remain politically relevant by becoming the new FDR with a turd nugget in his britches.
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Old 08-25-2022, 05:16 PM   #357 (permalink)
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Half is better than nothing, surely? I imagine it took a lot to get that one through. What does elph have to say? He's a student isn't he?
It's a decent precedent but is about as significant as brushing the crumbs off of your gut for the poor to eat. In order to get this one through, he had to *checks notes* enact it.
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I think the unironic rise of Dark Brandon shows that his supporters would side with him even if he threw out the respectability politics. Just imagine if Plan Columbia Joe felt there was no political option but to attack attack attack. Just imagine if Cornpop Joe was forced to remain politically relevant by becoming the new FDR with a turd nugget in his britches.
I don't understand a word of this.
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