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Old 07-21-2022, 11:47 PM   #251 (permalink)
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My sister who adores Trump (help!) said to me recently that, "We need to get a real good Conservative in there - we need DeSantis to save this country!" (help!)



That's true. I had no idea either that DeSantis is so popular. But my sister also claims that she would vote for Trump in a heartbeat if he ran, rather than DeSantis. She says her dream ticket is Trump/DeSantis.
No idea how to help your sister beyond pushing back against her **** and making it clear her **** has consequences for your relationship. Unless she's just a ****ing psycho perhaps pushing back could make her rethink some things cause people generally don't like attacking their friends and family. She might not be as committed as she likes to imagine she is.
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Old 07-21-2022, 11:50 PM   #252 (permalink)
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Yeah he's beating Trump in the polls but those are polls without Trump being a loudmouth psychopath on a daily basis, which is what built this whole Trump thing and what Desantis has none of.
Not to mention for all the talk of DeSantis online I live in the Bible belt and the only conservative signs I see are **** Biden, the Blue lives matter flag and Trump 2024.

Though if Desantis did take the nomination it would be a low key win for the globalist Davos agenda to trick God fearing conservative Americans to unite under the banner of such a Hispanic sounding name.
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Old 07-22-2022, 12:10 AM   #253 (permalink)
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No idea how to help your sister beyond pushing back against her **** and making it clear her **** has consequences for your relationship. Unless she's just a ****ing psycho perhaps pushing back could make her rethink some things cause people generally don't like attacking their friends and family. She might not be as committed as she likes to imagine she is.
yeah I don't think this is true at all lol

Assuming she is even remotely passionate about her beliefs the idea of easily talking her down from them is very unlikely to me

The more likely question you are looking at is whether that's some sorta deal breaker for you...
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Old 07-22-2022, 12:17 AM   #254 (permalink)
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No idea how to help your sister beyond pushing back against her **** and making it clear her **** has consequences for your relationship. Unless she's just a ****ing psycho perhaps pushing back could make her rethink some things cause people generally don't like attacking their friends and family. She might not be as committed as she likes to imagine she is.
I argue with my sister constantly about this actually, but it's almost as if she's in this state of mania about Trump. Her daughters, my nieces, are very upset about her beliefs and stridency but my sister is quite loud and domineering of her family. My late brother-in-law who was a sweetheart was dominated by her also (and so totally in love with her that he enabled her a lot, I'm afraid). My older niece is engaged to marry a man from a Latino immigrant family and she gets very upset about my sister's anti-immigration views. We've had holiday dinners at my sister's house where she tries to overpower me about politics at the table, and my nieces have come to fear these situations so for their sakes I try to remain calm while still getting my points across, but my sister has a total blind spot when it comes to politics and is just a total bully about it. She's totally committed. She's also quite close to the Southern contingent of our family and they whip each other into a frenzy together over Trump, lol.
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Old 07-22-2022, 12:35 AM   #255 (permalink)
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Well then you might just have to accept that your sister is a Nazi and deal with that however you can cause there isn't much to do at that point.
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Please not Kamala get Covid or please you don’t want her as President?
All of this is only pissing against the wind so long as idiocies like the Electoral College still operate. Until and unless America wakes up to the fact it’s in no way a full democracy fools will be running the show.
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Well then you might just have to accept that your sister is a Nazi and deal with that however you can cause there isn't much to do at that point.
Exactly. Funny you say that, because our eldest sister (who lives out of state, and they don't talk to each other) calls her the Nazi, lol.
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You think? I was under the impression Desantis was fairly popular. Perhaps it's the way the media has portrayed him up here.
Where does Canadian media lean politically?

Trump supporters worship DeSantis, he's the only one who has a shot of beating Trump.

The Republican establishment will never openly condemn Trump, they tried it before and it didn't work, but they know he's not gonna win again and even if he does the baggage with him right now is too much. They want a clean slate without alienating Trump voters and DeSantis is their best bet. I wouldn't put it past them to get on their hands and knees and beg Trump not to run.

We can only hope Trump is stupid and petty enough to f*ck it all up and given his track record there is hope.
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Old 07-22-2022, 06:47 AM   #259 (permalink)
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If she's the incumbent you might as well hand Trump the election. At least Biden has a doddering old grandpa likeability.
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Old 07-22-2022, 07:17 AM   #260 (permalink)
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No idea how to help your sister beyond pushing back against her **** and making it clear her **** has consequences for your relationship. Unless she's just a ****ing psycho perhaps pushing back could make her rethink some things cause people generally don't like attacking their friends and family. She might not be as committed as she likes to imagine she is.
Sad thing is conflicts like these tend to just make people entrench even deeper in whatever position they're already in. It's not an approach likely to change someone's mind.
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