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Old 07-21-2022, 04:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I think once he starts campaigning again Trump's anti-charisma will mollywollop Desantis.
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You think? I was under the impression Desantis was fairly popular. Perhaps it's the way the media has portrayed him up here.
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You think? I was under the impression Desantis was fairly popular. Perhaps it's the way the media has portrayed him up here.
Yeah he's beating Trump in the polls but those are polls without Trump being a loudmouth psychopath on a daily basis, which is what built this whole Trump thing and what Desantis has none of.
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Yeah he's beating Trump in the polls but those are polls without Trump being a loudmouth psychopath on a daily basis, which is what built this whole Trump thing and what Desantis has none of.
Not to mention for all the talk of DeSantis online I live in the Bible belt and the only conservative signs I see are **** Biden, the Blue lives matter flag and Trump 2024.

Though if Desantis did take the nomination it would be a low key win for the globalist Davos agenda to trick God fearing conservative Americans to unite under the banner of such a Hispanic sounding name.
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Old 07-21-2022, 11:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You think? I was under the impression Desantis was fairly popular. Perhaps it's the way the media has portrayed him up here.
Where does Canadian media lean politically?

Trump supporters worship DeSantis, he's the only one who has a shot of beating Trump.

The Republican establishment will never openly condemn Trump, they tried it before and it didn't work, but they know he's not gonna win again and even if he does the baggage with him right now is too much. They want a clean slate without alienating Trump voters and DeSantis is their best bet. I wouldn't put it past them to get on their hands and knees and beg Trump not to run.

We can only hope Trump is stupid and petty enough to f*ck it all up and given his track record there is hope.
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The whole DeSantis thing honestly seems like an astroturfing campaign to me. The media would rather have DeSantis be the R nominee over Trump and they're presenting it like this is the sentiment of a large number of joe sixpack R voters. But have you met R voters in real life lately? I've met quite a few and have yet to meet one that has the sentiment that it's time to ditch Trump for DeSantis. Hell, certain places you go, you'll still see Trump lawn signs and flags.

I don't know who's noticed, but quite a few big papers/publications are now starting to openly criticize Biden in regards to his age. It seems like a convenient time to do so, to set the groundwork if the Dems get clobbered in the midterms. If that happens, and it seems likely that it will, they can continue with the age criticism and apply it not only to Biden, but to Trump, Bernie, and Elizabeth Warren (if the latter two decided to run again).

For better or worse, it's Trump's party now. If he decides to run, DeSantis doesn't have a chance in my opinion. I think DeSantis knows this, and he won't run if Trump announces officially - in one of Trump's latest interviews, he made it sound like he's already made the decision to run, but hasn't decided when to announce (before or after the midterms).

Obviously if Trump ran, his candidacy would bring out a lot more D voters to vote against him. At the same time, he'd probably bring out more R voters to vote for him. It's just a guess, but if DeSantis ran, I'd expect lower turnout from both parties in the general.

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Trump supporters worship DeSantis, he's the only one who has a shot of beating Trump.

The Republican establishment will never openly condemn Trump, they tried it before and it didn't work, but they know he's not gonna win again and even if he does the baggage with him right now is too much. They want a clean slate without alienating Trump voters and DeSantis is their best bet. I wouldn't put it past them to get on their hands and knees and beg Trump not to run.
This is true I suppose. It seems like it's all up to Trump at this point. If he wants to run, I think he'll be the nominee. If he does some backroom dealings and decides to bow out and give DeSantis his blessing for the nomination, Trump supporters would get behind him in droves.

I just can't see the latter happening though, can you? I mean, Trump's so vindictive, and the fact that he believes the 2020 election was stolen from him has given him an ego-fuelled grudge. I just don't think he's capable of letting it go and stepping aside instead of running again to get his 'revenge'.

Another wildcard is if Biden decides not to seek re-election, who will be the Dem nominee? I'm kinda thinking it will be Gavin Newsom. I've heard media outlets start to openly say that it's time for another run with Hillary, but yikes, I mean, that seems like a dangerous proposition.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign...llary-clinton/

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I've heard media outlets start to openly say that it's time for another run with Hillary, but yikes, I mean, that seems like a dangerous proposition.
Democrats are absolutely stupid enough to let this happen.
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My sister who adores Trump (help!) said to me recently that, "We need to get a real good Conservative in there - we need DeSantis to save this country!" (help!)

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Yeah he's beating Trump in the polls but those are polls without Trump being a loudmouth psychopath on a daily basis, which is what built this whole Trump thing and what Desantis has none of.
That's true. I had no idea either that DeSantis is so popular. But my sister also claims that she would vote for Trump in a heartbeat if he ran, rather than DeSantis. She says her dream ticket is Trump/DeSantis.
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My sister who adores Trump (help!) said to me recently that, "We need to get a real good Conservative in there - we need DeSantis to save this country!" (help!)



That's true. I had no idea either that DeSantis is so popular. But my sister also claims that she would vote for Trump in a heartbeat if he ran, rather than DeSantis. She says her dream ticket is Trump/DeSantis.
No idea how to help your sister beyond pushing back against her **** and making it clear her **** has consequences for your relationship. Unless she's just a ****ing psycho perhaps pushing back could make her rethink some things cause people generally don't like attacking their friends and family. She might not be as committed as she likes to imagine she is.
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