Joe Biden Love Thread

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by TheBig3

Did I say I'd vote for Trump? Sorry, I was ordering the West Wing boxset.

These two sentences do not connect to make a joke.

[rubber soul]

Jed Bartlett for President!

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by rubber soul

Jed Bartlett for President!

Yeah we're not killing enough Muslims.

[SGR]

[Lisnaholic]

Haha! Depending on your allegiances, it can be a bit sad to see some of these big-name politicians come to grief publicly like this. Biden's fall reminds me of this Brit who was the leader of the Labour Party, also caught in a bit of PR footage that went wrong:-



In Biden's defense, he was doing something sporty and got his foot caught in the toe-caps of his bike pedals. Who needs those things anyway? I'm such a rebel that I ride a bike without them.

Also in Biden's defense, as I've been watching the Jan 6th hearings, I've noticed that Biden hasn't been - and doesn't show any indication of - leading a sustained campaign of lies, falsifications and threats to stay in power.
In contrast, Trump is so much the sore loser that he's willing to undermine confidence in US elections and in the peaceful transfer of power if it suits his purpose, doing lasting damage to what used to be one of the most-admired democracies in the world.
So yeah, not exactly love for Biden, whose party and admin have failed to achieve so many of their goals - but even as Manchin has guaranteed that the voting rights act has crashed and burned along with so much else, Biden still has this in his favour: he's preferable to the other guy.

[rubber soul]

You had to show Neil Kinnock, did you? Biden's 1988 campaign was jettisoned because he was accused of plagiarizing Kinnock. Kinnock himself thought the whole thing was ridiculous.

[Lisnaholic]

^ Well, that was weird!
I had zero idea that there was a story about Biden plagiarising Kinnock, but it seems to have been a slip in just one speech only, at least according to this news report I have just read:-

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...n-1987-scandal

Biden was quoting, and crediting Kinnock in several speeches, but on one important occasion forgot to do the crediting bit: "an honest mistake" according to Kinnock, who has nothing but kind words for Biden.

[rubber soul]

I remember being pissed about it too. I was actually supporting Biden in 1988. Back then, he was young and had the idealism of a Kennedy. I was really excited. Then the Kinnock incident came out and the press, who had nothing else to do apparently, was all over it. Biden was forced to withdraw and I became something of a cynic ever since.

And, yes, Kinnock said some very nice things about Biden. Even better, I have a book called the Next President. David Frost interviewed all the candidates at the time, including Biden. When Frost got to Al Gore, Biden had already dropped out. Gore, after feeling sympathy for Biden, noted that John Kennedy's Ask not what your country can do for you quote was actually ripped off from Khalil Gibran. Interesting, eh?

[music_collector]

Plagiarism is nothing new north of the border. Because we have three parties, one is always ripping off policies from the others. Once that happens, promises become more of a bidding war. For example, one party said they were going to plant x million trees. The next party said they would plant way more than that, and so on.

Plagiarism is almost a prerequisite.

Is the president still somewhat popular? He's not in the news much here of late. The last story I read with him mentioned was an opinion piece. The writer suggested that Biden has contributed more to our economic woes than Trudeau. Yes, we're joined at the hip, but I don't know it's all that accurate. There are way too many factors, way too many bad decisions, to pin the blame on one person.

https://tnc.news/2022/06/24/bonokoski-biden/

[rubber soul]

The last I checked, Biden's numbers were still going down like a lead balloon. People don't like paying five dollars a gallon for gas, even if it isn't really the President's fault.