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11-23-2021, 05:51 PM
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But i never said he was a threat to any status quo...i said his policy of cozying up to Kim wasnt any worse than the status quo response of sanctions and repudiation. In terms of actual results. It was no less effective than sanctions have been. And the counter side to the idea it gives Kim legitimacy (which again hasn't been quantified in any meaningful sense) is that if they're going to be a nuclear power maybe trying to maintain some active diplomacy is actually more productive than continual saber rattling and escalation |
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11-23-2021, 06:26 PM
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The "status quo", if we define "status quo" as the world created by US hegemony/international capitalism and not just the world as us peons see it through CNN, has no answer to nuclear weapons since the only options are disarm or wait and see if we all kill each other. Since the first option isn't on the table the second option becomes do we cross the aisle and shake hands with countries opposed to our hegemony or do we maintain our hegemony and gamble on the world. America has shown consistently that we are going to gamble on maintaining hegemony so if Trump shaking hands was ever a serious threat to that then we might very well see a wild Oswald appear. But nothing came of it so it's reasonable to assume the status quo saw no real threat. It was just media memes. Just like how Obama making seeming overtures to Cuba didn't actually do anything to change our relationship to the Castros.
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11-23-2021, 10:14 PM
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The status quo foreign policy of the US is multi faceted and NK is only one of many fronts in which we are semi engaged.
The assertion that even if a president steps out of line with that policy it's not to be taken seriously as an alternative because he wasn't assassinated as a result is reaching Alex Jones levels of conspiratorial thinking. So the question is if you are Biden, why reverse course? If the Trump policy poses no threat then you must have some other reason for reversing it. If it does pose a threat (which i honestly don't think it does) and that's your reason then that is even more nefarious. Basically you are stepping in as an agent of the status quo to mitigate said threat. And that would then be the supposed reason Trump isn't a threat cause they know they can just get another puppet in in 4 years For clarification, i don't think it's any of that. I think the leadership in Washington has a pretty myopic view on the issue and are literally deluded into thinking showing any flexibility with countries like NK is tantamount to showing weakness and ceding ground. |
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11-23-2021, 11:04 PM
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I mean I think the US has calmed down over communism over the last few decades of having won over communism but we've literally killed tens and evenbhundreds of thousands of people over this ****. I think if Trump had cozied up to NK in the 50s or 60s he'd literally be dead.
But even after all this time the Cuban embargo is not up for debate and any protest is to be treated as imminent Cuban collapse.
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12-05-2021, 06:33 AM
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12-06-2021, 06:43 AM
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12-10-2021, 09:07 PM
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12-10-2021, 11:33 PM
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Laser torpedo?
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