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Old 09-22-2020, 10:57 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Or it's just a total coincidence that black slaves in America weren't white?
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 09-23-2020, 03:42 AM   #62 (permalink)
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So American history would have played out exactly the same if Native Americans were white, blonde haired, and blue eyed?
No. But their oppression was and is economic. Their land was stolen. The solution isn’t to appreciate their culture it’s to gtfo their occupied land.
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Old 09-23-2020, 03:59 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Or it's just a total coincidence that black slaves in America weren't white?
No. It was easier to dehumanize blacks. But their oppression was and is economical. Their labor was and is being stolen. They don’t need love; they need compensation.
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Old 09-23-2020, 04:08 AM   #64 (permalink)
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even in a communist society or maybe especially in one, minorities would need special protections

it's 2020, get with intersectionality, there are a rainbow of overlapping ways people can be oppressed
Well we can let them choose if they want free hugs or their share of the wealth redistribution.
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The impoverished of all races have more in common with each other than the average black person has with someone like Jay-Z. Doesn't even read like OH disagrees with intersectionalism except as a reaction to people mentioning it tbh, he's just mistaking reductionism with insight again.
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he's just mistaking reductionism with insight again
Maybe that’s fair except I hear a giant vacuum where economic justice ought to be.

Especially since it’s a direct can-do tangible fix.
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economic share won't protect you from an outright lynching
It’s true that even rich black people are mistreated by the police and can’t travel comfortably in much of America.

But you know what? Idgaf about rich people’s problems.
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It’s true that even rich black people are mistreated by the police and can’t travel comfortably in much of America.

But you know what? Idgaf about rich people’s problems.
Oh so their oppression isn't just economic but whatever you like your simplified world view.
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By ignoring reality.
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