Should Felons be allowed to own guns?

~~jwb~~ · 08-23-2020, 11:16 AM

I assume everyone here agrees that felons should be allowed to vote, but I was curious what your thoughts are on gun rights for felons?

I honestly believe if we could get rid of the 2nd amendment that'd be for the best but since we are where we are as a country then if it's a right to have a gun then felons skills have that right. Getting out of jail without your full basic rights restored seems like bull**** to me.

People will say it's dangerous but guess what... The same arguments that they make about legal gun owners not committing crime with their guns actually applies to felons if they have a legal gun. You don't use a legal gun in a gang killing etc because it will be traced. If they're going to go back to shooting people they will do it the illegal way anyway. All that stopping them from getting a legal gun does is strip them of their right to protecr themselves in a country that is filled with people who own guns.

What are your thoughts?

**Frownland** · 08-23-2020, 11:19 AM

They should be granted the same rights as any other citizen in all senses, even if that includes the right to impractical modes of self defense.

SGR · 08-23-2020, 11:22 AM

Yup, I'm all for felons having their rights to bear firearms.

OccultHawk · 08-23-2020, 11:38 AM

They should have at least the same access to weaponry as the government up to and including WMD.

~~jwb~~ · 08-23-2020, 11:41 AM

Damn was hoping for some pushback. Fail thread. Unless maybe elph??

**Marie Monday** · 08-23-2020, 12:26 PM

No opposition from me either. I'm against gun ownership, but giving felons less civil rights than other people is unethical and just causes more problems in society

WWWP · 08-23-2020, 03:08 PM

If you're looking for pushback perhaps the better question is should people with mental illness(es) be allowed to own guns? Where would those lines be drawn?

Or you could borrow my favorite litmus test - if we eat meat and are able to do so because of the concept that the animals we eat lack sentience, shouldn't we be allowed to eat r-worded people?

OccultHawk · 08-23-2020, 03:18 PM

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If you're looking for pushback perhaps the better question is should people with mental illness(es) be allowed to own guns?

I’m thinking more like if this world hasn’t made you crazy you shouldn’t have a gun.

You gotta be hella ****ed up not to be ****ed up.

Neapolitan · 08-23-2020, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

If they're going to go back to shooting people they will do it the illegal way anyway. All that stopping them from getting a legal gun does is strip them of their right to protecr themselves in a country that is filled with people who own guns.

What are your thoughts?

Not all felons are violent criminals. They could be just like you ( ... plus a felony charge) and just want to protecr themselves with a "lefal weapon." Some commit white collar, and/or non-violent crimes. Some are not career criminals but have some isolated indecent in their past that prohibits them from legally purchasing a firearm. There are lawyers whose expertise is Restoration of Gun Rights that handle this kind of stuff all the time.

Another pertinent question: Should felons be able to own dogs to protecr themselves?

OccultHawk · 08-23-2020, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

depends on the crime they committed? case by case?

I'm more against Dads and the Castle Doctrine

I remember Chula and OH both having sexual fantasies about some desperate junkie breaking in so they could get (1) murder for free

I don’t give a **** if you’re a junkie or a cop if you kick my door in.

Nea -I definitely think it’s more important to regulate who owns dogs than guns.

08-23-2020, 11:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Should Felons be allowed to own guns? I assume everyone here agrees that felons should be allowed to vote, but I was curious what your thoughts are on gun rights for felons? I honestly believe if we could get rid of the 2nd amendment that'd be for the best but since we are where we are as a country then if it's a right to have a gun then felons skills have that right. Getting out of jail without your full basic rights restored seems like bull**** to me. People will say it's dangerous but guess what... The same arguments that they make about legal gun owners not committing crime with their guns actually applies to felons if they have a legal gun. You don't use a legal gun in a gang killing etc because it will be traced. If they're going to go back to shooting people they will do it the illegal way anyway. All that stopping them from getting a legal gun does is strip them of their right to protecr themselves in a country that is filled with people who own guns. What are your thoughts?

08-23-2020, 11:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	They should be granted the same rights as any other citizen in all senses, even if that includes the right to impractical modes of self defense. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

08-23-2020, 11:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	They should have at least the same access to weaponry as the government up to and including WMD. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

08-23-2020, 11:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
SGR No Ice In My Bourbon Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: /dev/null Posts: 4,327	Yup, I'm all for felons having their rights to bear firearms.

08-23-2020, 11:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Damn was hoping for some pushback. Fail thread. Unless maybe elph??