2020 US Election Thread

[Marie Monday]

Exactly, social and economic issues are intertwined, and that is why there is a common goal, but people either don't understand that or are too small minded to rise above the prejudices they were brought up with.
I also think separating social and economic issues and accusing the other group of neglecting one is usually an attempt to justify sticking to those prejudices

Originally Posted by Anteater

Doesn't matter if they have a common enemy or not. Most people are single-issue voters. Hell, you can't even get people who are only moderately different politically to see eye-to-eye on abortion because people draw a line in the sand on that.

That is just one of the things that stops people from realising they have a common enemy and goal

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by elphenor

social views drive economic views too

I think the belief in capitalism/meritocracy for conservatives comes from their desire for social hierarchy

I don't think the rich scheme up these distractions, politicians capitalize on them though

I mean I was speaking more about issues people actually vote for but whether Chudness is nature or nurture it can still be cultivated by political actors as can class consciousness.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by Mindfulness

Its almost 2022 yall


who the **** cares about 2020~!

No it isn't. Since when was a year six months long???

Originally Posted by TheBig3

I don't think Cruz cares about anything but himself, including his children and his wife.



They're not as important. Some loud-mouthed pinkhair or cowboy screaming about CRT or Jesus both doesn't read policy, and needs to feel like an expert so they dig in on cultural issues where their gut is enough of a source to cite from.

Cathode Ray Tubes??

[TheBig3]

Originally Posted by elphenor

social views drive economic views too

I think the belief in capitalism/meritocracy for conservatives comes from their desire for social hierarchy

I don't think the rich scheme up these distractions, politicians capitalize on them though

I don't know, there's a healthy history of deception in this country that I'd find it hard to believe the rich had nothing to do with. They're in league with the politicians.

1. Car dominance in the US is because automotive companies paid for crossing guards in small towns across the country to teach children "the road is for cars, not people."
2. The Food Pyramid, which I grew up with, was not based in science but gined up to sell more dairy products iirc
3. The death of the electric vehicle, the overthrow of iranian democracy, the gulf of tonkin, and the alleged greatness of radiohead

We've been lied to forever, and it benefits the wealthy every time.

My support for Biden is largely because I think he's able to speak to the Rightward voters in a way that gets them to see a Unions value. I hope that I'm right. And also he likes trains.

But I don't like Biden's love for Israel, whatever this **** is with Trump and the defamation suit I don't like (though I have yet to sit down with it fully), and I think he's way wrong on student debt. I just think it's a major waste of time to post **** like "omg Biden is such a boomer lmao" and then, when pressed, support some never-candidate.

[Frownland]

And here I thought I was changing the world, one ****post at a time.

[TheBig3]

Originally Posted by Frownland

And here I thought I was changing the world, one ****post at a time.

You and most of Twitter, my friend.

[Frownland]

Here's to hoping that reverting to horse race political analysis will put us on the right path.

[TheBig3]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Here's to hoping that reverting to horse race political analysis will put us on the right path.

What's the alternative? Vague hippie talking points delivering us? We tried that before and it got us, Reagan.

[Frownland]

And horse race politics re-elected him.

As for the Perfect Alternative that gives me license to criticize something, we can talk about our favourite IED techniques.

[TheBig3]

Originally Posted by Frownland

And horse race politics re-elected him.

Maybe the worst argument I've ever seen you put up. If three wins in a row from the GOP didn't signal that the New Deal had run out its usefulness, and was now being lorded over by a bunch of hacks who cared about power more than the people, I don't know what to tell you.

But it's occurring to me now that you think "history" is included in "horse-race politics." Which is shameful.

As for the Perfect Alternative that gives me license to criticize something, we can talk about our favourite IED techniques.

I have none.