2020 US Election Thread

[OccultHawk]

I'm not sure about your analogy, OH. My feeling is that releasing innocent German citizens back into their own land is a more straightforward affair than releasing what may be a mixed bag of people; some orphans, some undocumented, some not Americans. Still, I have to plead ignorance on the actual details.

Whether my analogy is a pure equivalence or not is irrelevant. They can’t be put up in a hotel and fed good food while the government uses missing persons resources to reunite their families? It is 100% is exactly that simply.

I didn’t vote for Biden to support a different tribe or different rhetoric. I demand a different government that is moral and better.

As a country we did something very wrong. We can’t continue to justify it because we have a new face in the White House. We have to do everything we can to make it right.

Frankly, it’s pretty sickening to be having this discussion with people who totally know better.

It's natural that when you grow up in a place, you have a sense that it's "yours"

I’m not throwing this at you or anyone who isn’t American. But in America that’s a cornerstone of white supremacy. It’s not “ours”. (And before Ant jumps in I know that whites aren’t the only one with regressive immigration views)

that is why I have a front door to my house

Sorry man. And this isn’t to you because you’re not American but after the last four years that sounds way too much like the brown people are coming to kick in your doors **** we’ve been bathing in for far too long. I know that’s not how you meant it and it’s not how you feel and you’re the opposite of racist but as an American I’m just NO on that ****.

Open the borders
Nobody illegal
Sanctuary everywhere

[Anteater]

The problem is less about having a realistic immigration process and more about taking a regressive methodology to the point of parody. To that end, I think Biden will make amends.

Jeff Sessions was a problem (and Trump's executive order back in 2018 didn't do enough to curtail him), but just remember that (also) prior to the Trump Administration there was also nobody actually taking down actual numbers on things like "how many kids are actually being seperated from their families?" and things like that...just like they weren't keeping track of who was going into those cages and for how long.

When the media discovered these things about Bush and Obama's administrations back in 2018-2019, they just wrote it off and decided to lie saying "Well, we don't have the numbers so it must have never happened or just happened once or twice", which was not the right thing to do because their apathy towards real truth gives Biden's administration a pass to continue those practices, just not in blatantly obvious ways.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Anteater

Jeff Sessions was a problem (and Trump's executive order back in 2018 didn't do enough to curtail him), but just remember that (also) prior to the Trump Administration there was also nobody actually taking down actual numbers on things like "how many kids are actually being seperated from their families?" and things like that...just like they weren't keeping track of who was going into those cages and for how long.

When the media discovered these things about Bush and Obama's administrations back in 2018-2019, they just wrote it off and decided to lie saying "Well, we don't have the numbers so it must have never happened or just happened once or twice", which was not the right thing to do because their apathy towards real truth gives Biden's administration a pass to continue those practices, just not in blatantly obvious ways.

I nixed the first paragraph where I’m not with you but on all this you’re dead on. Time to hold the dems feet to the flames for murder.

Unless they get smart fast.