2020 US Election Thread

[jwb]

So what makes them call certain states but not others? That's confusing.

[Marie Monday]

Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks

Nah, the media doesn't decide. They're just projections. The votes just need to be counted and it needs to flip. Not all the votes have been counted.

Nate Silver Says Fox News and AP Projections For Biden in Arizona ‘Should Be Retracted Now’

That's true, and it depends on the map you're looking at. AP and fox declared Arizona for Biden but that seems to have been premature.
These media all have their ways of calculating when a state is certain to be won by one of the candidates, but apparently the methods are not always accurate? It confuses me too

[TheBig3]

Originally Posted by jwb

So what makes them call certain states but not others? That's confusing.

Projections drawn from outstanding regions based on historical precedent. The major hang-up in AZ as I understand it is that they thought they had 95% and it was much lower, meaning projections based on "10% of ballots are more likely to favor Trump from that district" get all ****ed up.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by jwb

So what makes them call certain states but not others? That's confusing.

You already know the answer to that. They called California right when the polls closed.

[SGR]

Trump tweet:

All of the recent Biden claimed States will be legally challenged by us for Voter Fraud and State Election Fraud. Plenty of proof - just check out the Media. WE WILL WIN! America First!

[OccultHawk]

Gut check time

[SGR]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Gut check time

What do you think? Has Trump been known to follow through on things? I wonder how hard it will be for Trump to find instances of irregularites or fraud...

[Lucem Ferre]

He'll do what ever he can to try to remain in power.

[SGR]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

He'll do what ever he can to try to remain in power.

The only way I think he can is if he does so legally and through the courts. There's just too much scrutiny on him right now, especially with Joe Biden leading.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks

What do you think? Has Trump been known to follow through on things? I wonder how hard it will be for Trump to find instances of irregularites or fraud...

I think he hires lawyers to work with judges that he likely had a role directly or indirectly of appointing and who also have an incentive to be on his good side if this “democracy” dies. It doesn’t take a consensus to stall things. In fact, a lot of people who are horrified by the prospect now would soon be saying well they do need to double check these things and there’s two sides to the issue and we really need nuance and he’s not really a dictator. He’s using the process and every other justification instead of just admitting we are totally ****ed.

I think this is very serious and very possible.