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Old 11-03-2020, 07:49 PM   #981 (permalink)
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Without going into the mechanics of this convoluted system, is this ever going to change? Is that even possible? Don't people have a problem that a president can be elected even though most people haven't voted for them?
Yep, it's been heavily contested for a while. It's possible to abolish it, but this would have to be enacted by american politicians (2/3 of congress I believe). Not likely to happen since they don't operate in the interests of the people though.

Quick overview of the mechanics: each state gets a certain number of electoral college votes. Most states use a winner take all system where all of their electoral college votes go to the majority winner. This causes a popular vote/electoral college vote split because someone can win (for example) 40 percent of a state's vote which would go toward their popular vote figures, but these votes wouldn't be represented in their electoral college figures because the state's EC votes went to the other candidate.

It was partially designed to keep people like Trump out of office, but it was largely put in place to entice less populous states into joining the country since they were afraid of being drowned out politically by more populated (and urban) states (there are more layers but that's the overview). It's failed at the former and the latter has invalidated the concept of one man one vote. Pretty cool country huh.
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Old 11-03-2020, 08:02 PM   #982 (permalink)
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If you dip**** ****s vote for four more years of this arsehole you can stick your heads up your arse and **** off because I’ve had it with that ****ing moron and you deserve whatever **** you get. See you in four years you ****tards.
See you in eight more years when Biden's centrism leaves us in the exact same position that got Trump elected in the first place.
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Old 11-03-2020, 08:02 PM   #983 (permalink)
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See you in eight more years when Biden's centrism leaves us in the exact same position that got Trump elected in the first place.
Still confident in a Biden win?
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Old 11-03-2020, 08:07 PM   #984 (permalink)
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Yep, it's been heavily contested for a while. It's possible to abolish it, but this would have to be enacted by american politicians (2/3 of congress I believe). Not likely to happen since they don't operate in the interests of the people though.

Quick overview of the mechanics: each state gets a certain number of electoral college votes. Most states use a winner take all system where all of their electoral college votes go to the majority winner. This causes a popular vote/electoral college vote split because someone can win (for example) 40 percent of a state's vote which would go toward their popular vote figures, but these votes wouldn't be represented in their electoral college figures because the state's EC votes went to the other candidate.

It was partially designed to keep people like Trump out of office, but it was largely put in place to entice less populous states into joining the country since they were afraid of being drowned out politically by more populated (and urban) states (there are more layers but that's the overview). It's failed at the former and the latter has invalidated the concept of one man one vote. Pretty cool country huh.
Thanks! Saves me some googling!
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Old 11-03-2020, 08:08 PM   #985 (permalink)
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I was never confident. I'm responding to Big3 as if his boy wins.
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I was never confident. I'm responding to Big3 as if his boy wins.
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You made a post bitching about the possibility of a Trump win and I responded with a post about the future of America if Biden wins because a Biden win shouldn't be seen as a real victory.
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You made a post bitching about the possibility of a Trump win and I responded with a post about the future of America if Biden wins because a Biden win shouldn't be seen as a real victory.
...ok. Agree to disagree.
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Old 11-03-2020, 08:21 PM   #989 (permalink)
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If you dip**** ****s vote for four more years of this arsehole you can stick your heads up your arse and **** off because I’ve had it with that ****ing moron and you deserve whatever **** you get. See you in four years you ****tards.
Lol shaddap whatever bitch made country you come from relies on us to one extent or another

So if we elect a madman that invades you or otherwise ****s you over them you deserve it
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Old 11-03-2020, 08:22 PM   #990 (permalink)
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...ok. Agree to disagree.
I thought it was obvious that I disagree with you. Perhaps I should be less subtle next time.
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