2020 US Election Thread

OccultHawk · 10-26-2020, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

every poor person who comes here from the third world wants to own property

I made the point about floating down there on a flotilla not because I'm saying love it or leave it but to clue you in on the stakes of making such a journey. People aren't doing that **** frivolously. They're obviously fleeing from desperate circumstances.

They don’t want liberation. They want to become capitalist oppressors.

I’m sick of people chasing the American dream. The American dream is to try to put yourself in a position where you can hoard wealth and oppress others. They shouldn’t be here working hard and crying because they love Trump and Ronald Reagan. They should be blowing up buildings because America has spent decades keeping their homeland down.

**Frownland** · 10-26-2020, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

Like to the extent maybe currents are relevant... It's only cause they are being trapped there by a regime that won't let them leave and so their only escape route is via jumping on a raft out to sea and praying that you make it across.... That's kinda the point.

It would be a lot harder to take one against a current though, admit it.

~~jwb~~ · 10-26-2020, 04:55 PM

That's really just it. You don't understand why poor people want to not be poor. That is really all you mean by the American dream. People want money. Poor people especially. You don't understand why people would come from a 3rd world banana republic and be happy to live here cause you don't know that struggle. That's all it really is fundamentally. People's politics aren't always completely informed or bound to confirm your meta narrative. Get over it.

~~jwb~~ · 10-26-2020, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It would be a lot harder to take one against a current though, admit it.

Yeah but we don't need to and we still are less likely to want to move there than vice versa.

I picked the flotillas explicitly to demonstrate the obvious desperation involved. Something we probably have a hard time actually relating to. That's just our privilege though.

OccultHawk · 10-26-2020, 04:57 PM

How many third world countries have you been to exactly?

~~jwb~~ · 10-26-2020, 05:02 PM

I haven't been to any cause I don't have the means to go galavanting around the world like some tourist

Why'd ya come back, pal?

**Frownland** · 10-26-2020, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

Yeah but we don't need to and we still are less likely to want to move there than vice versa.

I picked the flotillas explicitly to demonstrate the obvious desperation involved. Something we probably have a hard time actually relating to. That's just our privilege though.

Hmm I'm not buying it. The laws of physics as applied to currents are universal.

~~jwb~~ · 10-26-2020, 05:07 PM

You're not buying what? You just said we can take a plane there so we don't even need the damn currents

Yet the net immigration obviously flows in one direction

**Frownland** · 10-26-2020, 05:09 PM

It's not my fault that you chose the poor example of one way floatopias.

~~jwb~~ · 10-26-2020, 05:12 PM

I already explained why lol and you still won't actually address the point out of sheer stubbornness

I picked the most desperate way Cubans get here to highlight said desperation... Guess what? They don't all come on ****ing flotillas

It's just like with Mexico... Generally speaking people are sneaking across the border to live in America... Not the other way around. Or like the ships of refugees who leave the middle east and Africa for Europe. Stop being dense you know exactly what I'm saying.

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10-26-2020, 04:55 PM	#793 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	That's really just it. You don't understand why poor people want to not be poor. That is really all you mean by the American dream. People want money. Poor people especially. You don't understand why people would come from a 3rd world banana republic and be happy to live here cause you don't know that struggle. That's all it really is fundamentally. People's politics aren't always completely informed or bound to confirm your meta narrative. Get over it.

10-26-2020, 05:02 PM	#796 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	I haven't been to any cause I don't have the means to go galavanting around the world like some tourist Why'd ya come back, pal?

10-26-2020, 05:07 PM	#798 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	You're not buying what? You just said we can take a plane there so we don't even need the damn currents Yet the net immigration obviously flows in one direction

10-26-2020, 05:12 PM	#800 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	I already explained why lol and you still won't actually address the point out of sheer stubbornness I picked the most desperate way Cubans get here to highlight said desperation... Guess what? They don't all come on ****ing flotillas It's just like with Mexico... Generally speaking people are sneaking across the border to live in America... Not the other way around. Or like the ships of refugees who leave the middle east and Africa for Europe. Stop being dense you know exactly what I'm saying.