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Old 10-21-2020, 02:28 PM   #591 (permalink)
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.... These arguments with OH have been happening since long before you started chiming in.
Oh don't be so salty. I just love to see the arms race turn on people.
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Old 10-21-2020, 02:32 PM   #592 (permalink)
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I'm not being salty I'm letting you know. Literally nothing has changed here. The same climate change debate we just had has literally happened dozens of times already. With the same exact talking points from the same exact members.
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Old 10-21-2020, 02:44 PM   #593 (permalink)
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... The USSR literally tried and failed to occupy Afghanistan as well. I dunno what you think is so magical about China.
You know how Malthusians love to hold up Asians as the smartest race to hide their white supremacy.
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You know how Malthusians love to hold up Asians as the smartest race to hide their white supremacy.
You know beyond a shadow of a doubt how exactly right I am about overpopulation. Don’t even front. You’re the only one else here smart enough to see through the misinformation and propaganda.
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Old 10-21-2020, 03:29 PM   #595 (permalink)
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I'm not the hardliner you are but I just recognize that if we're not using our resources optimally and responsibly then it becomes an overpopulation issue as well as a resource issue even if we hypothetically could fix the issue simply with better resource management. They just don't like to frame it that way.
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Old 10-21-2020, 04:43 PM   #596 (permalink)
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I'm not the hardliner you are but I just recognize that if we're not using our resources optimally and responsibly then it becomes an overpopulation issue as well as a resource issue even if we hypothetically could fix the issue simply with better resource management. They just don't like to frame it that way.
I don't frame it that way cause that's an incorrect framing

It doesn't "become an overpopulation issue" because the larger population has a larger toll on the environment based on our faulty infrastructure... That just means that the population is an amplifying variable in the equation of how we cause environmental harm.

The difference between that and it being a "overpopulation problem" is that with a different infrastructure our current population could exist without the same problem. That's exactly what OH denies. In his mind there's nothing else that could change to make 7 billion people viable. That's what it actually means to say it's a overpopulation problem. The distinction here is vital.
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1 billion is a thousand cities of 1 million. That’s still entirely unsustainable.
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No one cares.
That’s obvious.
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1 billion is a thousand cities of 1 million. That’s still entirely unsustainable.
lol

Worse than that, it's 10,000 cities of 100,000!!!!Omgfear!!!
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