2020 US Election Thread

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Overpopulation does not exist. It was only proposed to justify abject poverty as a rule of life.

Then it’s subsequently impossible for manmade environmental calamities to exist. Mankind being essential to manmade. Saying that makes you a climate change denier.

[Frownland]

Now you're getting it!

[Frownland]

Nope. Cause and effect.

[OccultHawk]

The problem isn’t that my apartment has roaches. The problem is that roaches are dirty. Imma teach the roaches how to take a shower and presto we’re all good.

And anyway, if you make sure conditions are optimized for them they’ll breed only up to the point that they cover every inch of your place. After that it levels out. No problem. Fixes itself.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

is it not possible

hear me out

to stop building cars?

It is, in fact, entirely impossible, to be human and not consume. In fact, the same rule applies to every living organism on earth. Baffling.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

you don't even want to try the sustainable consumption model?

even though it's the only possible ethical answer

there's no population control that isn't either a nightmare, or useless

You cannot sustain 7.5 billion. It’s not my fault that it’s inconvenient and a ****ing nightmare. Nature doesn’t always come with a built in ethical solution. It just exists. There’s not a key for every lock. Everything doesn’t always work out. We ****ed up and now we pay. There’s no escape. It can either be existential or almost existential. There’s an infinity of difference.

I know you don’t want to see it and therefore you can’t. There’s no other explanation than it’s an intellectual shortcoming. And that’s universally across the board for every denialist.

[Frownland]

That's why we're invading space.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

kinda yikesy metaphor

Yes. If there’s a eugenic link that can be made it has to be wrong. It cannot be right. It must not even be considered.

Yikesy has no bearing on truth. Roaches and people are both biological organisms. You are no better than a roach. If that’s misanthropic so be it. It’s still the incredibly super obvious truth.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

in this metaphor you're the rightful owner

and you have an (((infestation)))

what's the point in even preserving humanity if it's by something as horrific as eugenics

I’m not even admitting that it is eugenics but as is my style I will own it anyway.

The reason is after the population is culled humanity can learn its lesson and exists for thousands and thousands of generations and do incredible things.

Just like I’m not going to kill myself now because Hitler killed Jews then.

And I don’t even care if it makes me a Hitler. That still doesn’t make it untrue. It’s just makes it untenable to those who lack the fortitude to face it.

[Anteater]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I’m not even admitting that it is eugenics but as is my style I will own it anyway.

The reason is after the population is culled humanity can learn its lesson and exists for thousands and thousands of generations and do incredible things.

Just like I’m not going to kill myself now because Hitler killed Jews then.

And I don’t even care if it makes me a Hitler. That still doesn’t make it untrue. It’s just makes it untenable to those who lack the fortitude to face it.

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