2020 US Election Thread

[OccultHawk]

Hitler was elected by one vote. Cast by Bernie Sanders.

[jwb]

I don't necessarily disagree with you in general I just care less about the ideal than the pragmatic results. I wasn't aiming the electoral college part at you btw.

I do think it's questionable calling elections in authoritarian states elections tbh

It's like calling show trials actual trials. Elections aren't just the performative act of voting but the functional act of actually selecting leadership through said votes. The game way trials are the functional act of allowing a process of examining evidence to try to determine guilt, rather than the performative act of trying people where the evidence is irrelevant and the verdict is pre determined.

So with that said, while the US is more democratic than say China, its elections are rendered less legitimate to the extent that voting doesn't matter. Which is obviously most of the country thanks to the EC, imo.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by elphenor

it should be kept in mind that the Republican Party as it is could not exist as a majority at any level of Gov if the system was just slightly more Winner Takes All

Like I said, they'd either adapt or be replaced by another party that could compete. We've seen this sorta shift happen before. I don't buy that there wouldn't still be enough of a gap in popular opinion to warrant two parties if the EC was scrapped and we went with the popular vote. The difference in terms of culture and politics exists to a large extent even within states, not to mention on a national level.

[jwb]

Biden was fairly competent and didn't break down during the debates so I guess that counts as a win by Biden standards, even though really I felt Trump was the dominant presence and communicated much more strength than Biden.

Really it felt like Trump spent the entire debate bullying both Biden and Wallace and neither one was ever able to truly exert any dominance over him.

I mean typically a disagreement would lead to a back and forth where both parties get a say in these types of debates... In this case Trump would just force the last word on Biden and Wallace would make a panic stricken attempt to push the conversation onto the next topic.

Dunno if it's gonna really change anything but it was definitely fairly entertaining at least.

[TheBig3]

Exert dominance over him? What was Biden supposed to do? Piss on him?

[Anteater]

Trump and Biden were both pretty weak, but Trump's weakness ended up propping up Biden by default because the latter was more measured and coherent. I guess they took different drugs before waddling out on stage.

[TheBig3]

Can someone explain to me why you thought Biden was weak?

[Neapolitan]

Originally Posted by TheBig3

Can someone explain to me why you thought Biden was weak?

Scranton Joe can say anything, but in the end it's all supposition.

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by jwb

Also, what is the rationale behind giving the rural mobs an edge in the first place?

Wasn't it about preserving slavery or something?

[Frownland]

They should do the next one over live stream and mute the other candidate during the two minutes. tboy seems to explode when he holds back his interruptions and it's nagl.

I see Biden flirting with the fascist "I define the party, only I can fix this" rhetoric in an attempt to sway right wing voters concerned that Biden will bend to the scary radical leftists.

tboy saying that someone has to do something about antifa in response to the question of whether or not he denounces right wing political violence was predictable but still wild. His comments at the end about poll watchers were a call to action. It's clear that we need to mobilize to watch the newly self-proclaimed poll watchers.

Originally Posted by TheBig3

He said exactly what I was thinking there but pro tip: don't give your opponent tips. Should've just let him jabberdig himself into gibberish the whole time so that nothing was even said. Though I guess that would display an absence of leadership in the eyes of that demographic, so maybe it was a solid strategy.