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Old 09-01-2020, 11:08 AM   #61 (permalink)
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My favourite part of his books is that they're exclusively about my political enemies.
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Old 09-01-2020, 11:15 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Am I wrong though?

Wasn't the point of newspeak to both limit thought through limiting language and letting the ambiguity of the words make it easier to manipulate the public?
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Old 09-01-2020, 11:18 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Old 09-01-2020, 11:37 AM   #64 (permalink)
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And I'm not agreeing with Elph and saying that you used the word wrong. I disagree with your point but you used the word right.

I just think setting clear boundaries on the meaning of a word so it can't just mean what ever you want it to mean isn't Orwellian.
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Old 09-01-2020, 11:47 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Am I wrong though?

Wasn't the point of newspeak to both limit thought through limiting language and letting the ambiguity of the words make it easier to manipulate the public?
Yes. You’re right.

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Goddamn skippy I did.
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when something is Orwellian, it's obfuscating truth through political language

it was never about survalience
Surveillance is a central theme in 1984 and oppressive surveillance is one of the most common meanings of the term.
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when something is Orwellian, it's obfuscating truth through political language

it was never about survalience
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the intended use of Orwellian was not "things that I don't like related to authoritarian governments" but here we are

I'd like to de-Orwell the term
You are pulling a full-on anteater. You were 100% wrong and now you’re trying to keep twisting it up. Just do yourself a favor and ****ing stop.
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Old 09-01-2020, 08:12 PM   #69 (permalink)
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those are both true, but it's one book he wrote, and then the most surface application of it

I didn't say it was wrong btw, I just think it's bad + dumb
Yeah exactly cause bad + dumb = five.
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From Biden's recent speech in Pittsburgh.



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