2020 US Election Thread

~~jwb~~ · 10-21-2020, 01:35 PM

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Its clear as day. If the US and China went to war it would be a conventional war. The old fashioned kind. Military vs military. The kind we haven't truly seen since WW2.

Afghanistan is irrelevant. We're "losing" in the sense that we're failing to occupy and build a stable nation. That's a much bigger project than just decimating a military.

If it came down to a serious war between the us and China, the us would just crush their military. Assuming it doesn't go nuclear because obviously them the whole planet loses. But in conventional warfare, China doesn't have the clout to take on America currently. They may descend into an ungovernable hellhole the way Iraq and Afghanistan did... But that's not the same as actually winning the war.

**Frownland** · 10-21-2020, 01:40 PM

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Nah I think it's just a more modern version of good old fashioned imperialism/colonialism. I.E. Leveraging your position as a lender to exploit debtor nations for natural resources.

It's both.

OccultHawk · 10-21-2020, 01:43 PM

Man you have really drunk the Kool-Aid. China has manufacturing, technology, an organized government, and an obedient population. America is a cluster**** on the brink of a civil war that can’t even test its population for covid or even manufacture its own surgical masks for its nurses.

OccultHawk · 10-21-2020, 01:59 PM

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China has such great tech that they have to steal it from us

Who the **** is “us”?

~~jwb~~ · 10-21-2020, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Man you have really drunk the Kool-Aid. China has manufacturing, technology, an organized government, and an obedient population. America is a cluster**** on the brink of a civil war that can’t even test its population for covid or even manufacture its own surgical masks for its nurses.

... They're a distant second in terms of military might. That's just a fact. I'm not saying that can't change but that's the situation currently.

China's primary military objectives are in their own back yard. They're still jockying to maintain hegemony the south China Sea. America literally has a global naval empire that single handedly controls most of the trade routes the entire global economy relies on.

OccultHawk · 10-21-2020, 02:10 PM

Let’s see what would happen if the Taliban pulled a 9/11 in Beijing.

The Batlord · 10-21-2020, 02:22 PM

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Let’s see what would happen if the Taliban pulled a 9/11 in Beijing.

Well seeing as how their navy isn't at all equipped to do what ours can do I imagine they'd probably take a lot longer to respond than we did. Now stop throwing a tantrum and go to bed, mister.

TheBig3 · 10-21-2020, 02:25 PM

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Man you have really drunk the Kool-Aid. China has manufacturing, technology, an organized government, and an obedient population. America is a cluster**** on the brink of a civil war that can’t even test its population for covid or even manufacture its own surgical masks for its nurses.

A moment of silence for those who thought they were far enough Left before OH came along. How's it feel to be in the Neoliberal tent, lads?

~~jwb~~ · 10-21-2020, 02:26 PM

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Let’s see what would happen if the Taliban pulled a 9/11 in Beijing.

... The USSR literally tried and failed to occupy Afghanistan as well. I dunno what you think is so magical about China.

~~jwb~~ · 10-21-2020, 02:28 PM

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A moment of silence for those who thought they were far enough Left before OH came along. How's it feel to be in the Neoliberal tent, lads?

.... These arguments with OH have been happening since long before you started chiming in.

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	... Its clear as day. If the US and China went to war it would be a conventional war. The old fashioned kind. Military vs military. The kind we haven't truly seen since WW2. Afghanistan is irrelevant. We're "losing" in the sense that we're failing to occupy and build a stable nation. That's a much bigger project than just decimating a military. If it came down to a serious war between the us and China, the us would just crush their military. Assuming it doesn't go nuclear because obviously them the whole planet loses. But in conventional warfare, China doesn't have the clout to take on America currently. They may descend into an ungovernable hellhole the way Iraq and Afghanistan did... But that's not the same as actually winning the war.