2020 US Election Thread

[OccultHawk]

You’re almost entirely disengaged with capitalism as far as I know.

I’m not going to make things worse by voting for Biden though so I win.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

then you just get an old ass population

And they’ll ****ing die.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

Do you care about humanity or nah?

not sure I care what happens after I die if I'm being totally honest with myself

I need there to be young workers to support me when I'm old and feeble though

Yes. I figure if one in a million breed there will be plenty.

Don’t count on it. Theres old people sleeping right outside my house right now.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by jwb

don't think I or anyone else said is simple at all

The chances for failure are definitely better than the chances for success

But it's not impossible to address through intensive govt research and development. That is not an easy or particularly feasible political goal in this country. But I've yet to hear a better or more feasible idea.

What is your feasible goal for overcoming the money being put forth by capitalists fighting against climate reform? I mean all these corporations who know about climate change also know about the money being put forth to fight climate change.

So either it's possible to fight climate change and therefore you also have to come up with a way to also fight these corporations or these corporations know that this is all a fool's errand and it doesn't matter what you do. But either way in the best circumstance you have an enemy in these corporations and you need to deal with them. What is your plan for dealing with them? Just having a plan to deal with climate change is at best half the battle.

[OccultHawk]

Just having a plan to deal with climate change is at best half the battle.

I have a plan to be a billionaire. Am I halfway there?

Climate change isn’t going to be resolved under capitalism but even if it was there’s still deforestation, coral reef death, plastics, depletion of aquifers, rivers and lakes decimated, the destruction of wetlands, desertification, unsustainable waste and garbage, nuclear arsenals that need to be dismantled, urban sprawl, over farming, destruction of biodiversity on every inch of human habitat and arable land, extinctions - all of this is at odds with economic models based on growth. Growth means very literally the exploitation of these things. There’s no other way to define it. Capitalism is based on the encroachment on the environment. Everything that is produced and consumed contributes to the destruction. The truth is we cannot solve even one of these problems when our economy is predicated on exacerbating ALL of these problems. No example of 20th century fascism even remotely competes with complete annihilation of the entire planet under our current model necro-capitalism. There’s never been anything like it and it’s completely incompatible with human existence.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

no...no it won't be enough

China's one child policy age'd the population to a problematic degree by itself

Yeah for sure. China doesn’t have enough people. Huge problem.

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by elphenor

I'd like to argue for disposing of any baby with a penis from this day forward however because they likely grow up to be ****heads, and more importantly competition

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ho...ees-2019-09-06

how bad could this problem be if there wasn't even the one child per parent....

They could be dead already because of the hellish effects of overpopulation




I know for some reason you can’t or refuse understand that

I think it must be the heat in Texas that makes the whole state born again be fruitful and multiply christards.

To ****ing not get that China is overpopulated takes ****ing brain damage. ****ing market watch? Ffs. The rivers are poisoned. The air is unbreathable. I think that’s a little more devastating than one generation of suffering pensioners.

Growth is unsustainable. You can’t just keep adding to the population every year to subsidize the elderly. That’s an environmental Ponzi scheme.

Talk about class reductionism! Make the country unlivable forever! Anything to keep that economic ball rolling! Great thinking DeathSantis!

Oh, I read that overpopulation isn’t a thing... I guess it’s the birds that killed the air and the fish that killed the rivers... it couldn’t be the people because they’re the population and if they did it pointing that out would make you a eugenist ... a NAZI because only NAZIS think manmade problems are caused by people. It’s people being greedy that’s different than people being people derp derp it’s not the population of people it’s just a postmodern social construct that came out of an idea that’s not even real and killed the earth. So weird. Derp derp Soundgarden Rocks!!!

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

also the problem begins to self correct once people urbanize and become wealthier

it turns out the solution is lifting people out of poverty something the "postmodern social constructionists" are out to do anyway!

Hurray. There’s a theory that western **** living empty soul living standards can hold population at an already unsustainable number. Great ****ing argument.

It turns out that this liberate women and lift people out of poverty “solution” doesn’t even ****ing approach the problem of there being ****ing 7.5 billion goddamn people on the planet. Surprise! We don’t live in Fairytale Fantasyland.

If we all live how you want PEOPLE ARE STILL ****ing people. 7.5 billion still equals the earth is ****ing dead dip **** -

That’s the most idiotic neoliberal capitalism will fix itself democracy works mythology ever written. Do you see the insane litany of environmental problems there are or you wtf that doesn’t fit my agenda derp derp:

deforestation, coral reef death, plastics, depletion of aquifers, rivers and lakes decimated, the destruction of wetlands, desertification, unsustainable waste and garbage, nuclear arsenals that need to be dismantled, urban sprawl, over farming, destruction of biodiversity on every inch of human habitat and arable land, extinctions

people people people people people

this many ****ing people is obviously too ****ing many

ffs

it’s like having to explain to an argumentative colorblind fool that pink isn’t green.

[OccultHawk]

Hang on. I’m gonna go check if all the people are gone since we're wealthier than Uganda. Hold up.