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09-25-2020, 03:28 PM | #371 (permalink) | ||
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Yes, the electoral college was designed to keep populists and unqualified candidates out of office, and to prevent tyranny of the majority - as you point out, the system is not perfect. But I think it'd be more productive to look at how most states award electors (a winner-take-all basis) and make improvements - perhaps implement ranked-choice voting like Maine did - rather than just throw the baby out with the bathwater and declare the electoral college to be worthless and ineffective. Quote:
Yeah, I'll do that, right after I put another baby into my girlfriend. And take my nice petrol-fuelled car to get me a cheeseburger. Last edited by SGR; 09-25-2020 at 03:33 PM. |
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09-25-2020, 03:36 PM | #372 (permalink) | |
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09-25-2020, 03:38 PM | #374 (permalink) | ||
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09-25-2020, 03:44 PM | #375 (permalink) | |
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We'll have to disagree on that then.
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09-28-2020, 08:49 AM | #376 (permalink) |
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09-28-2020, 06:17 PM | #377 (permalink) | |
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The end result is most people's vote literally doesn't matter. I'm not sure what practical reasons there are to keep it around. |
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09-28-2020, 06:40 PM | #378 (permalink) | |
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I was taught that they were there in case the masses made an absolutely idiotic choice they could just say nope sorry.
I actually thought they were probably going to reject Trump. I thought that they were a safeguard. I used to think it was a pretty good idea to have two senators from each state Quote:
I’m not really arguing anything in particular just that federalism isn’t working out very well these days.
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09-28-2020, 07:02 PM | #379 (permalink) | ||
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The other part of the electoral college, and the truly relevant part to modern elections, is that states are given a certain number of electoral points based on population but scaled so that while more popular states have more electoral points, the difference between them and smaller states is less drastic than the difference in population. So in other words, it disproportionately gives smaller states more power relative to their population size. The other aspect is most states use winner take all method of distributing their electoral points. So whichever party wins the popular vote in said state gets all of the electoral points, as opposed to the proportional method where if the Dems get 60% of the vote and the Reps get 40%, they split the electoral points 60/40. If every state adopted this proportional method then at the very least everyone's vote would count, though smaller state voters would still count more. Quote:
It applies specifically to federal elections which affect everyone equally. What the electoral college means is that basically your vote means less or even nothing in federal elections depending on which state you live in. So this is priveledging the rights of some states over other states and some citizens over other citizens depending on which state they live in. |
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09-28-2020, 08:19 PM | #380 (permalink) | |
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I’m not trying to be defensive but I get that
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But it wouldn’t be so bad if we actually honored the 10th Amendment
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