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Old 09-16-2020, 07:28 AM   #271 (permalink)
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Not voting is voting. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
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Old 09-16-2020, 07:46 AM   #272 (permalink)
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Yeah. I’m not really that concerned if Trump claims I voted for him. He’ll always try to pretend we love him.
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Old 09-16-2020, 01:40 PM   #273 (permalink)
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If Biden doesn't make an Epstein crack then he isn't fit to be president.
Honestly the fact that he's a life long Washington insider and apparently not on the Epstein flight logs makes him look like a loser.
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Old 09-16-2020, 02:58 PM   #274 (permalink)
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lol good one
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Old 09-16-2020, 03:50 PM   #275 (permalink)
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A vision isn’t nothing and the Biden camp has a much better vision. Unfortunately, I believe their path will also lead the other way. Trumpism is a quick bottoming out and it’s true there’s no guarantee of ever seeing light again. But Bidenism is an entrenched slow and steady train to the same old same old except environmentalism which is fast tracking itself into disaster and Biden will continue to enable the profiteers, even as he maybe even believes the different tune he’s singing. And that old school Americana doesn’t advertise its insanity like Trump does. It flies under the radar, perhaps making it even more insidious.

Where you and I will probably never meet is at my staunch and dogmatic stance that civil rights and sane environmental policies are impossible under capitalism. We will lose playing whack a mole with social, environmental, and economic justice. There’s no centrist position to work with. Destroy the planet in twenty years instead of ten? Maybe I’m insane not to take the extra decade but it’s just too much blood on my hands. I’m very reluctant to be a part of a problem. Even if it’s a lesser one.
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Not voting is voting. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
Thank you for the well-reasoned answer, OH, and Frownland, characteristically cryptic.

Has it really been 4 years? I remember some heated debates about the virtues of voting back in 2016, so I'm going to dial back on my urge to bully people into voting Trump out. Number one, it's not my fight, and number two, I no longer have Chula fighting in my corner. I wonder what's happened to him: he was living in a mobile home, so I really hope he isn't on the West Coast.
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Old 09-16-2020, 03:59 PM   #276 (permalink)
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Last we heard he was back together with his wife and sold the mobile home.
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Old 09-16-2020, 04:33 PM   #277 (permalink)
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Thanks for the update Batlord. It sounds like he's doing better for himself - and we sound like lifers in Shawshank Redemption: "Yeah, he got out and he's doing ok now.."
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Old 09-16-2020, 04:37 PM   #278 (permalink)
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I wonder who will be the first to pull a Brooks.
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Old 09-16-2020, 05:01 PM   #279 (permalink)
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Was he the guy who couldn't handle life on the outside and killed himself? Good question!
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Old 09-16-2020, 05:41 PM   #280 (permalink)
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Please, please, please let him be right again. I'm still worried about the debates, though.

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Right now, polls say Joe Biden has a healthy lead over President Trump. But we’ve been here before (cue 2016), and the polls were, frankly, wrong. One man, however, was not. The historian Allan Lichtman was the lonely forecaster who predicted Mr. Trump’s victory in 2016 — and also prophesied the president would be impeached. That’s two for two. But Professor Lichtman’s record goes much deeper. In 1980, he developed a presidential prediction model that retrospectively accounted for 120 years of U.S. election history. Over the past four decades, his system has accurately called presidential victors, from Ronald Reagan in ’84 to, well, Mr. Trump in 2016.

In the video Op-Ed [below], Professor Lichtman walks us through his system, which identifies 13 “keys” to winning the White House. Each key is a binary statement: true or false. And if six or more keys are false, the party in the White House is on its way out.

So what do the keys predict for 2020? To learn that, you’ll have to watch the video.

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