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Old 05-30-2021, 08:50 PM   #2241 (permalink)
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 05-30-2021, 10:00 PM   #2242 (permalink)
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Would totally smash though.
What about Ana Kasparian?
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:00 PM   #2243 (permalink)
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I mean yeah sure. I wouldn't be as hot and bothered about her calling me a limp dick queer and spitting in my face while I nutted in her though.
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Old 05-31-2021, 12:13 AM   #2244 (permalink)
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I mean yeah sure. I wouldn't be as hot and bothered about her calling me a limp dick queer and spitting in my face while I nutted in her though.
Ok. I'm glad to know this info. Thanks for being forthcumming.
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Old 05-31-2021, 06:59 PM   #2245 (permalink)
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You make some good rational arguments - and that may be their weakness. Will Republican voters be thinking about previous presidential terms, about Obamacare? Even Biden's success with covid might be either a fading memory or remembered with resentment as an example of Holocaust-style Dem repression, as MT Greene is now re-casting it.

I guess we can only wait and see which voters are inspired by reality-based analysis as you lay it out, and which voters are going to vote against those space-laser pedophiles at any cost.
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A question I haven't seen debated anywhere yet: Supposing, with so many investigations into Trump going on, he's in court or under house arrest when the next elections come round? How will the GOP party and voters react to that circumstance?
If Trump isn't found, on tape, saying something atrocious, then any prosecution will animate his base. But as I say, I don't know that it will matter. The GOP is constantly throwing out it's own - not a real republican, RINO, not a Trump supporter. The more the litmus test throws people out, the remaining crowd is not only smaller, but says more alienating stuff.

They weren't found to have a compelling argument in 2012, the lost the majority in 2016, and they lost so badly in 2020 that traditionally red states switched. The trends don't lie. And the GOP is giving up anyone who has the mental capacity to write legislation.

Newsmax is a death sentence for the Right. As is the Facebook algorithm. Pedophile pizza parlors do not resonate with the general public.
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Old 05-31-2021, 07:09 PM   #2246 (permalink)
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So, again, do you think that the right imploding as a constructive political force will produce MORE stability? Are you just sitting around watching The West Wing on repeat waiting for adult politics to become fashionable again? Cause that's just as delusional as waiting for a communist revolution to solve all of the world's problems. The right has chosen its path and it's not showing any indication of ever straying from that path.
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So, again, do you think that the right imploding as a constructive political force will produce MORE stability? Are you just sitting around watching The West Wing on repeat waiting for adult politics to become fashionable again? Cause that's just as delusional as waiting for a communist revolution to solve all of the world's problems. The right has chosen its path and it's not showing any indication of ever straying from that path.
I've never watched the West Wing.
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Again, I hope you are right, Big3.

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The GOP is constantly throwing out it's own - not a real republican, RINO, not a Trump supporter. The more the litmus test throws people out, the remaining crowd is not only smaller, but says more alienating stuff.
To me, the next logical step in this process is to have a group of Republicans splinter off and form a new party. This is what would've happened in England by now: sure the splinter party is always weaker, but usually picks up a few seats. If it is lucky, it gets enough seats that neither of the other parties gets a clear majority, like a Senate that's 45-10-45. When that happens, the splinter group is like a lady with two lovers, both major parties trying to get her into their bed. It's actually quite stabilising I think, though I don't know the details.
Is it my imagination, or do people in the US have the attitude that a third party is unthinkable?

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Yep, they are becoming a party that never do their homework. I was reminded of this today, watching a documentary about the upcoming environmental disaster of California's drought: 21 years of water shortage so far, and set to get worse this year. Failing crops, cattle that can't be maintained: it'll take extraordinary measures to avoid disaster, but are the GOP investigating solutions? No, they are preparing their next speeches about space lasers and planning to block infrastructure spending.
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So, again, do you think that the right imploding as a constructive political force will produce MORE stability? Are you just sitting around watching The West Wing on repeat waiting for adult politics to become fashionable again? Cause that's just as delusional as waiting for a communist revolution to solve all of the world's problems. The right has chosen its path and it's not showing any indication of ever straying from that path.
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I've never watched the West Wing.
Let me guess you watch:
Cheers
Boston Legal
The Practice
Boston Common
Crossing Jordan
Ally McBeal
Dawson's Creek
Southie Rules
St. Elsewhere
Amirightoramiright? Cause they're all situated there in Boston.
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Is it my imagination, or do people in the US have the attitude that a third party is unthinkable?
Generally yes because third party candidates don't have wildly different positions on most of the issues. It tends to be on ONE issue and the rest are fairly comparable. Ross Perot being the only exception really. But what you've got now is a group of people thinking that core things are wrong.

The Trump Wing believes in Protectionism, Isolationism, and the more extreme wing of them thinks the Constitution can't work in multicultural nation. Hence the "muh constitution" memes.


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Yep, they are becoming a party that never do their homework. I was reminded of this today, watching a documentary about the upcoming environmental disaster of California's drought: 21 years of water shortage so far, and set to get worse this year. Failing crops, cattle that can't be maintained: it'll take extraordinary measures to avoid disaster, but are the GOP investigating solutions? No, they are preparing their next speeches about space lasers and planning to block infrastructure spending.

Congress is only allowed to do things in the United States when a crisis happens. I don't blame them, honestly, I blame the voters. A proactive Congress would be voted out immediately.
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