2020 US Election Thread

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Marie Monday

Dude I just said that.

Good. Let’s go get her. You tie her up and I’ll do the rest.

[Marie Monday]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Good. Let’s go get her. You tie her up and I’ll do the rest.

Whoa don't drag me into your creepy fantasies

Also, were you not reading my posts then? How could you, shame!

[OccultHawk]

I read your posts but I did didn’t feel like we were on the same page.

[Marie Monday]

We're on the same page when it comes to that detail, but I disagree with the idea that hatred for rich people can justify use of racism or misoginy. But we've talked about that before

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Trump seemed like a working class joe that might buy me a beer by comparison. She couldn’t fake it.

Really? You fell for that fat ****er's bull****? I watched The Apprentice for years and I could see he was only out for himself no matter what he said. He might buy you a beer, but it would be Trump Beer (TM) and he'd get a kickback from it, so he wouldn't really be paying for it. Plus the next five rounds would be on you.

Of all people here, I would not have expected you to have considered Trump a "normal Joe". What the **** is normal about one of the world's biggest and most greedy capitalists? How do you work that one out?

Originally Posted by Anteater

the Titanic sinking is laughable.

I'm so tempted to take that out of context and use it as my sig, but, you know, sig free now for going on three years....

Originally Posted by Marie Monday

Whoa don't drag me into your creepy fantasies

Also, were you not reading my posts then? How could you, shame!

He can't hear you over the sound of his own voice shouting obscenities.

[OccultHawk]

Really? You fell for that fat ****er's bull****?

Bitch you’re taking **** the wrong way

[jwb]

Originally Posted by elphenor

a marginal improvement on Obama made it the most progressive candidacy ever (to win the nomination ofc)

outside internet politics and DSA meetings someone like Biden is considered progressive

Basically she represented more of the same, which was another thing working against her after 8 years of Obama. She wanted a public option. Guess what? So did Obama, when he was campaigning. He caved when in office due to political pressure. No telling what her actual policy would be once in office but it's hard to think she'd have been much different from Obama.

Except she was more of a war hawk than he was. That's one key difference.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by Marie Monday

I know, I think you're projecting things I didn't imply. I'm not saying that anyone would like her if she were a man, I'm not even claiming that being a woman hurt her more than it helped her. You guys were discussing where the Hillary hatred comes from, and I just think you left out this aspect. I'm not defending her or sympathising with her in any way.

About why people like AOC: she's hot. She also doesn't have the other unlikeable aspects that hillary has, of course. My general point is that being a powerful woman clashes with some key things a woman is supposed to be, like pleasing and such. It's very difficult to navigate that without being labelled a detestable shrew; only a few women manage but they're exceptions.

I didn't mention it on purpose because that's the only thing anyone ever mentions. They refuse to put any of the blame on Hillary and defer to sexism, Russia, etc.

A big part of why she's so hated is also because of her association with Bill. There's been a 30+ year Republican propaganda campaign against the Clintons and Hillary played a very active role when he was president. She did a lot of shady and corrupt **** including pressuring victims of sexual assault to stay quiet.

Unlike Bill though she has no charisma to counter act against this legacy. And it's not cause she's a woman it's cause she's an empty suit. There's nothing genuine about her.

But to the same extent her sex can fuel hatred and her legacy with Bill can fuel hatred, she wouldn't be where she is in the first place without these factors. So you reap the benefits and you also reap the consequences. That's life. You don't get something for nothing.

As for AOC being sexy sure that might help but Palin is kinda a milf and I still find her unlikable. Omar isn't that hot and she's more likable than Palin. So is Warren, though I like her less due to how she handled this recent campaign for prez and basically double crossed Bernie.

At the end of day, Hillary is unlikable and just happens to be a woman. That's all it is. It's just like Ted Cruz. He's a slimey, phony guy that just rubs people the wrong way. He also happens to be Hispanic. That's not why he's disliked but he could just as easily play the race card and turn himself into the victim the way Hillary does with sex.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by Marie Monday

You hated her because she couldn't fake not being humble. Why do you expect her to be? Do her male equivalents seem humble? Of course she's a monster, but I think she gets more **** for it than the male monsters around her. Which doesn't mean people are too hard on her, they're just not willing enough to see through those men and condemn them as much. (I'm talking about the average person here, not about you)

And coincidentally, the second paragraph I'm quoting here is a great example of how deeply ingrained the mentality is that women should please.

both Obama and Bill Clinton seem way more humble than Hillary lol

[The Batlord]

I will say that Hillary Clinton is more likeable than Ted Cruz.