2020 US Election Thread

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Anteater

Thoughts on this OH?

Yahoo News - White House aides reportedly stepped in to keep Trump from calling for $2,000 stimulus checks, fearing it could torpedo relief negotiations

It’s pretty ****ing sad when Trump is the best dude in the room.

None of that ****ing aid to small businesses and the states and local communities **** is going to help me.

Idgaf that they’re not sending money to the states. Like the state of Florida gives a **** if I live or die. The entire bailout means nothing to me except the direct check. That last one was the only good thing the government has ever done for me my entire life.

Trump is a nazi **** but the real far left, not neoliberal identity politics leftists but real deep economic Marxist / Anarchist leftist who understand it’s all money and nothing but money and money and that’s it the rest is bull**** - the real anarcho-left missed a great opportunity to turn Trump into a Mao. You can get anything from a narcissist by massaging their egos. Trump has no political allegiance. He was putty in our hands. The greatest weapon we ever had and we blew it.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

It’s pretty ****ing sad when Trump is the best dude in the room.

None of that ****ing aid to small businesses and the states and local communities **** is going to help me.

it could help you indirectly

Like if the state has more to invest in fighting Covid it could help the numbers. The problem is when states like Florida get the resources but then just mismanage them anyway.

And the small business thing could slow down the economic impact. The worse the economy gets the more us bottom dwellers suffer. The rich just find ways to make money off the crash.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by jwb

it could help you indirectly

Like if the state has more to invest in fighting Covid it could help the numbers. The problem is when states like Florida get the resources but then just mismanage them anyway.

And the small business thing could slow down the economic impact. The worse the economy gets the more us bottom dwellers suffer. The rich just find ways to make money off the crash.

That makes sense. I’d rather the federal government control the purse strings than the state of Florida. To be honest, I’d rather Florida get chocked out even if I go down with it. I love seeing the businesses with closed doors. There’s a lot of hate in my politics. It’s not necessarily rational. I have a bitter sense of vindictiveness. You know how I am.

I also think there’s a relative thing. Like the worst is if I suffer while others thrive so hoping everyone suffers is just playing it safe emotionally. That way it isn’t just me and my failures and my loserdom and my fault. I don’t want to face that. If the whole place burns I have my excuse to be on fire.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

That makes sense. I’d rather the federal government control the purse strings than the state of Florida. To be honest, I’d rather Florida get chocked out even if I go down with it. I love seeing the businesses with closed doors. There’s a lot of hate in my politics. It’s not necessarily rational. I have a bitter sense of vindictiveness. You know how I am.

I also think there’s a relative thing. Like the worst is if I suffer while others thrive so hoping everyone suffers is just playing it safe emotionally. That way it isn’t just me and my failures and my loserdom and my fault. I don’t want to face that. If the whole place burns I have my excuse to be on fire.

I totally see that in you and I understand why.

I'm more in the camp of trying to not be the one on fire and so far failing at it. It's easier for me to face failure than to accept this as the best life has to offer me. I'll make it to financial freedom or die trying. It's the only thing that keeps me motivated to punch a clock.

[jwb]

The Republicans rely more on tricks and games like gerrymandering and voter suppression because they are an outmoded party that pursues an antiquated ideology that fewer and fewer people support as the years go on. They also have baked in institutional leverage via the electoral college and the federalist structure of American government.

The Democrats are extremely corrupt internally or at least have been: see 2016. But in terms of national politics they have more popular support and thus a natural advantage. They also do **** like gerrymandering but not as much as the GOP.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

I don't think you get a claim as to what the "real left" believes

you hate democracy and love borders

Democracy is right wing bull****.

[jwb]

I'm not saying he would've won but iirc there was defintely corruption against him and for Hillary in the DNC. If you remember that election, nobody else of note dared to run against her. She was the anointed one. Like it was owed to her after she lost in 08 and served 8 years under Obama. It didn't matter that he wouldn't win. The fact that he was standing up to her meant he was a thorn in the anointed one's side. I believe she still resents him to this day.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

the reality is the country is not as left as Bernie Sanders so he was never winning the primary anyway

the party leaders supported themselves, it sucks, but it makes complete sense

I don’t know if he could’ve won the general either. Nobody knows. I wish we had tried though.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

Democracy is the entire point of being Left Wing not even material conditions

ok well whatever I am then

I’m some kind of leftist anarchist and I don’t give a **** if you say I’m not

I’m anti private property and I hate rich people more than anyone alive

[OccultHawk]

I like the far right when they start preaching violence.

Nazbol spazbol. I’m a Maoist.