2020 US Election Thread

[Exo]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

She has a doctorate. One of the first things you learn in college is how to address your professors. All my professors had doctorates. I don’t know if this is universal protocol but at my university non-tenured professors were addressed as Dr. and tenured professors were addressed as Professor. I’ve never in my life heard it argued before this that it’s inappropriate to use the APPROPRIATE honorific.

It's just grade school bully sh*t. It all came from a sh*t WSJ article with such a condescending tone.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-ther...-d-11607727380

Madame First Lady—Mrs. Biden—Jill—kiddo: a bit of advice on what may seem like a small but I think is a not unimportant matter. Any chance you might drop the “Dr.” before your name? “Dr. Jill Biden” sounds and feels fraudulent, not to say a touch comic. Your degree is, I believe, an Ed.D., a doctor of education, earned at the University of Delaware through a dissertation with the unpromising title “Student Retention at the Community College Level: Meeting Students’ Needs.” A wise man once said that no one should call himself “Dr.” unless he has delivered a child. Think about it, Dr. Jill, and forthwith drop the doc.

Absolute garbage. This f*cking moron thinks being a doctor is exclusive only to those in the medical field. As if M.D. or "medical doctor" doesn't exist as a distinguishing factor of what kind of doctor somebody is. It's maddening schoolhouse bullsh*t as thousands die every day because people didn't take medical doctors seriously. Now they say it's important to keep the term, which existed as an academic title to begin with, exclusive to the medical field.

Get absolutely f*cked.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Exo

It's just grade school bully sh*t. It all came from a sh*t WSJ article with such a condescending tone.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-ther...-d-11607727380



Absolute garbage. This f*cking moron thinks being a doctor is exclusive only to those in the medical field. As if M.D. or "medical doctor" doesn't exist as a distinguishing factor of what kind of doctor somebody is. It's maddening schoolhouse bullsh*t as thousands die every day because people didn't take medical doctors seriously. Now they say it's important to keep the term, which existed as an academic title to begin with, exclusive to the medical field.

Get absolutely f*cked.

I hadn’t seen that article. I’m surprised the WSJ even ran that ****.

It’s been the customary honorific since the onset of the degree. It’s not even remotely controversial. Talk about reaching for straws! I understand your objections as well, exo. I agree with your points. I’m just adding that it’s completely groundless as well. It’s not in accordance with the proper use of American English.

Edit: actually after re-reading your post you also made the same point I’m making as well.

[OccultHawk]

This is by the same author 50 years ago in Harpers

"Homo/Hetero: The Struggle for Sexual Identity" by Joseph Epstein from Harper’s Magazine, September 1970

There is much my four sons can do in their lives that might cause me anguish, that might outrage me, that might make me ashamed of them and of myself as their father. But nothing they could ever do would make me sadder than if any of them were to become homosexual. For then I should know them condemned to a state of permanent niggerdom among men, their lives, whatever adjustment they might make to their condition, to be lived out as part of the pain of the earth.

Read the whole thing for context if interested. It’s an interesting record of homophobia. Also, he writes in circles to give himself argumentative escapes. He was a better writer back then, if equally hateful. You can tell he’s going for that old school William F. Buckley kind of conservative condescension in that WSJ editorial but as usual today’s conservative “intellectuals” are just simple bitch ass trolls.

[The Batlord]

With a fedora.

[Anteater]

I'm looking forward to kowtowing to our neoliberal overlords once more. A toast to eight years of hairy legs that turn blonde in the sun!

[Lisnaholic]

Originally Posted by Anteater

I'm looking forward to kowtowing to our neoliberal overlords once more. A toast to eight years of hairy legs that turn blonde in the sun!

"kowtowing to overlords" is an odd way of describing things isn't it? Have Americans, I wonder, been "kowtowing to Republican overlords" these last 4 years?

For myself, I'm looking forward to seeing a President who is capable of acknowledging the disasters occurring on his watch:-

1. A massive security hack from Russia: "The attack unfortunately represents a broad and successful espionage-based assault on both the confidential information of the U.S. Government and the tech tools used by firms to protect them," : No comment from Trump.
2. A 9/11 size death toll from covid every day for over a week now: No comment from Trump.
3. Federal Government is cutting next week's vaccine roll-out by 30%, although Pfizer "have millions more doses sitting in our warehouse... but we have not received any shipping instructions.": No comment from Trump.

Also looking forward to a genuine "draining of the swamp" when Trump's dubious gang is replaced. Number of Indictments, I suppose, is one way to measure a swamp; here are the number of politicians indicted in recent admins, listed according to the presidents they were affiliated to:
Nixon - 28 : Reagan - 33 : Trump - 8 ( 9 if we were to add in that famous "unindicted co-conspirator")
Carter - 0 : Clinton - 2 ; Obama - 0

Sources: https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...trump-reagan-/ and https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN25G1YU

[Anteater]

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

"kowtowing to overlords" is an odd way of describing things isn't it? Have Americans, I wonder, been "kowtowing to Republican overlords" these last 4 years?

Nah. Trump was a reaction to eight years of Obama's clinton-esque neoliberalism but without the dotcom boom to smooth over things conservatives didn't like. And what Biden's win actually shows us is that any Democrat who was on the stage last year could have gotten the nomination and likely won the presidency this time because of the sheer levels of turnout. Which means that if people were smarter overall, we'd have President Sanders instead. So now things are going back to the status quo that led us to Trump in the first place. Kanye 2024 yasssssss.

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

For myself, I'm looking forward to seeing a President who is capable of acknowledging the disasters occurring on his watch:-

1. A massive security hack from Russia: "The attack unfortunately represents a broad and successful espionage-based assault on both the confidential information of the U.S. Government and the tech tools used by firms to protect them," : No comment from Trump.
2. A 9/11 size death toll from covid every day for over a week now: No comment from Trump.
3. Federal Government is cutting next week's vaccine roll-out by 30%, although Pfizer "have millions more doses sitting in our warehouse... but we have not received any shipping instructions.": No comment from Trump.

1. Ok? Russia and China are always hacking us or trying to undermine the U.S. in some form or fashion. Just because the news isn't always talking about it doesn't mean it hasn't been happening for a long time. I'm frankly surprised it was reported at all, seeing as there's zero benefit for that kind of information to become public.

2. Why would you expect Trump to be commenting on the deaths when it doesn't solve anything one way or the other? That's not how he thinks: any acknowledgement of weakness is just more ammo for his detractors. There's zero merit in him commenting on it when Americans basically do whatever the hell they want regardless of what the government says. Whether they want to go and protest or eat out at fancy restaurants...we're all our own worst enemy.

3. It appears that you don't have the correct story or perhaps your information is outdated. https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...hipment-delays

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

Also looking forward to a genuine "draining of the swamp" when Trump's dubious gang is replaced. Number of Indictments, I suppose, is one way to measure a swamp; here are the number of politicians indicted in recent admins, listed according to the presidents they were affiliated to:
Nixon - 28 : Reagan - 33 : Trump - 8 ( 9 if we were to add in that famous "unindicted co-conspirator")
Carter - 0 : Clinton - 2 ; Obama - 0

Sources: https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...trump-reagan-/ and https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN25G1YU

So you have some grifters who are bad at hiding their dirty laundry and others that do a better job at minimizing scrutiny because they're better at lying to us? Got it, thanks.

[OccultHawk]

Americans basically do whatever the hell they want regardless of what the government says. Whether they want to go and protest or eat out at fancy restaurants...we're all our own worst enemy.

Church

[Anteater]

Thoughts on this OH?

Yahoo News - White House aides reportedly stepped in to keep Trump from calling for $2,000 stimulus checks, fearing it could torpedo relief negotiations

[Exo]

Originally Posted by Anteater

Which means that if people were smarter overall, we'd have President Sanders instead.

Americans basically do whatever the hell they want regardless of what the government says. Whether they want to go and protest or eat out at fancy restaurants...we're all our own worst enemy.

Agreed.