Of course I look at US politics from a rather ill-informed distance; I haven't experienced its consequences on a daily basis my entire life. So Batlord is entitled to some passion on the subject, though I was surprised at how vociferously he attacked an idea that I didn't think was particularly controversial: that the future is as yet unwritten, and could bring with it change for the better. Not "will bring", which would be over-optimistic, but "could bring", allowing for a possibility that Batlord seems determined to deny in advance.

There may be many terrible things in store for the US; evictions, unemployment, hunger are all set to rise. But I will stand by what I said: when the going gets tough, that can often be a catalyst for change for the better. To my mind, the recent election result could be read as an example of that, with its unprecedented voter turnout, an unprecedented popular-vote majority for Dems, first female black VP, etc.

As for Batlord's analysis of the legislature, I felt myself out of my depth on that, though I can see that if the GOP retains the Senate, there's going to be a lot of unproductive deadlock. But again, those Georgia run-offs haven't been decided yet. Depending on the results on Jan 5, either Batlord should prepare for a tsunami of unrestrained optimism from me, or I will steel myself for a corrosive "told you so" post from him. But that is also one of my points; that the future could go either way.

Yes but Bernie didn't make it through. So I guess blame the Dems Caucuses (isn't that a mountain range?) on that. Can't blame the Great Unwashed for not voting for BS (hah!) when he weren't on the ticket!
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I will always choose optimism before pessimism. Doesn't mean I see everything through rose-tinted glasses (Rose! Stay away from my glasses with your tints! I've warned you about this before!) but if you go the other way you end up like, oh I don't know, OccultHawk and Batty?

Oh to be an Aushwitz survivor. Then no one would dare wag a finger at me for cynicism

At least they got free tattoos

I was surprised to see what I write deemed as "code" like it's some secret cloak & dagger secret message. Just to clarify something I refereed to Hands as "president select" cause he was hand selected by the global elites, and in small measure with support from the legacy media and the Four Horsemen. My advice to you elp is: learn to code.

Who’d you vote for, nea?

You should listen to Cum Town sometime. They have quite a few observations about ((((((them))))))).

I voted in a booth for reasons of anonymity.

This Jill Biden "Dr." drama is some of the dumbest sh*t I've seen so far. 3,000 people are dying a day and all of a sudden Republicans care about the sanctity of medical doctors. It's obviously not a big deal but the tone deaf nature of it all really bothers me for some reason.

Was it Trump?