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Old 11-13-2020, 09:43 PM   #1471 (permalink)
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Bernie wasn't even on the map during the Bush years

it was after Obama that he came pretty close to upsetting Clinton

neoliberals radicalize the left too by being disappointing
It was after the internet and social media became more accessible that Bernie came close to upsetting clinton.


And JWB I'd argue that the Republican party always was the Trump party.
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Old 11-13-2020, 10:33 PM   #1472 (permalink)
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I mean I agree but I wouldn't be surprised if all the Republicans still looking for Wallstreet blowjobs would be the last to realize this so that you have a newly rightified Democratic party fighting with old school neocons to be the most palatable party to rich donors until someone more competent than Trump rises up to fulfill his promise of being the new populist right wing demagogue and we just end up in this same place in ten or twenty years but even ****ing worse and he's literally Hitler and the longer this takes to happen the more this demagogue will literally be Hitler.
I don't think the democratic party is going to be influenced by the Lincoln project at all. Everyone sees the obvious grift for what it is. Those guys are just happy to have a seat at the table. For now.
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Old 11-13-2020, 10:36 PM   #1473 (permalink)
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What the **** are you talking about? Bernie became a thing cause everyone hated the right. Obama had nothing to do with the left's radicalization.
no he's right.... Back in 2011 or so if you were a leftist you were probably watching the young Turks rant about how weak and docile Obama was and how he's not a true progressive etc... That was around when occupy wall street and all that popped off.

A lot of us came of age and voted in 2008 for Obama then became black pilled once it was clear he was hardly that different from Bush.
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Old 11-13-2020, 10:56 PM   #1474 (permalink)
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Medicare for all, criminal justice reform, new legislation to address climate change and better labor laws is really ****ing radical. I can't believe how radical Bernie Sanders is for attempting to address four of the biggest issues in America and the world today. He's exactly like Hitler!
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Old 11-14-2020, 12:35 AM   #1475 (permalink)
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Trump Loses String of Election Lawsuits, Leaving Few Vehicles to Fight His Defeat

The president’s efforts to use the courts to delay or block President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory were turned aside in cases in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Arizona.
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Old 11-14-2020, 12:48 AM   #1476 (permalink)
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Time to start Trump TV

This is all just an act at this point imo

Setting up the martyr complex in advance

Trump the president is gone. Trump the political God is here to stay.
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Old 11-14-2020, 06:29 AM   #1477 (permalink)
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yeah and it lead to the Justice Democrats (co-founded by Cenk who ironically got Cancelled) who have been by my measure pretty successful so far

but the funny thing about Doomers like Batlord is they wouldn't be activists regardless
And you'll always be the phony progressive who sides with whoever you think will win.
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Old 11-14-2020, 11:37 AM   #1478 (permalink)
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This administration will not be going to a lockdown. Hopefully, whatever happens in the future, who knows which administration it will be. I guess time will tell, but I can tell you, this administration will not go to a lockdown.
The bolded is as close to a concession as we're gonna get imo.

Pretty sure that he's doing the gray hair thing so that he can pull the frail old man act when his day in court comes. Prepare to see a cane or walker soon.
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