2020 US Election Thread

adidasss · 11-07-2020, 08:47 PM

Ding-dong, the jerk is gone. But read this before you sing the Hallelujah Chorus

TheBig3 · 11-07-2020, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Based on what?

Well, there was a take-back of power after Watergate. There's a lot of things Trump did because it wasn't illegal that we all thought it was an accepted norm. The pardons, the kids serving as whatever job they had. Things like that.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I know to follow the money rather than trusting old guys with money to do the right thing. If the Democratic Party is getting Chamber of Commerce money now then the people they're lobbying for (big business) are probably going to get the better end of the stick.

Wall Street donated to Obama and he still passed regulation against them. I know you want Glorius Revolution, but a few of us out here have something to lose. So we're not going to vote for it.

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Originally Posted by elphenor

what is Biden gonna executive order

the president is the de facto head of party though, that's the reason why the executive is so powerful

I was listening to something earlier that said the muslim ban, and the detention centers were going out immediately. I thought there was something else but I don't recall.

**Frownland** · 11-07-2020, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

Well, there was a take-back of power after Watergate.

And then?

TheBig3 · 11-07-2020, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

And then?

Are you asking me to explain why problems exist in the world? Or are you unaware of Congressional oversight?

**Frownland** · 11-07-2020, 09:00 PM

I was trying to help you come to the conclusion that a lull in executive expansion before the decades-long snowballing of overreach that brought us to where we are today isn't the best evidence that we'll be seeing any meaningful limiting of the executive any time soon.

The Batlord · 11-07-2020, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

Wall Street donated to Obama and he still passed regulation against them. I know you want Glorius Revolution, but a few of us out here have something to lose. So we're not going to vote for it.

Oh thank you so much for assuring me that money in politics doesn't matter cause votes give the people the real power. Man, those rich jerks in the Chamber of Commerce must really be desperate and pissing themselves. I feel so much better now you stupid ****ing ****.

Anteater · 11-07-2020, 09:10 PM

Biden is clearly going to follow Trump's lead and expand executive power beyond what we've seen to date. He'd be a fool not to.

TheBig3 · 11-07-2020, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I was trying to help you come to the conclusion that a lull in executive expansion before the decades-long snowballing of overreach that brought us to where we are today isn't the best evidence that we'll be seeing any meaningful limiting of the executive any time soon.

I assumed that's what you were saying, but it's apples and oranges. The violations of the Trump era weren't exactly the same issues in the Nixon Administration. Saying "it happened again" isn't being honest.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Oh thank you so much for assuring me that money in politics doesn't matter cause votes give the people the real power. Man, those rich jerks in the Chamber of Commerce must really be desperate and pissing themselves. I feel so much better now you stupid ****ing ****.

You're welcome.

**Frownland** · 11-07-2020, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

Saying "it happened again" isn't being honest.

Word. Imagine how I felt when I saw some yahoo say that it'll happen again!

TheBig3 · 11-07-2020, 09:20 PM

You know, when I came back here I was like "Why do all these conversations end with everyone trying to low-energy troll each other?" and I realized it's because there's no reason to have a conversation with these people. So, hell, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

Anyone who makes over $90k is both a pedophile and a war criminal, and if we were any kind of real democracy we'd flog them on YouTube. We're going to run out of potable water unless Biden implements Medicare4All, and the Supreme Court should be abolished in lieu of a sort of American Idol style public opinion poll. Open Borders is a neoliberal shill policy put forth by oligarchs. We should subsidize plane rides into america. A class system will be formalized not by money, but by how sustainable your diet is.

And any candidate that doesn't support this is a fascist.

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adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,945	Ding-dong, the jerk is gone. But read this before you sing the Hallelujah Chorus __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I was trying to help you come to the conclusion that a lull in executive expansion before the decades-long snowballing of overreach that brought us to where we are today isn't the best evidence that we'll be seeing any meaningful limiting of the executive any time soon. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,246	You know, when I came back here I was like "Why do all these conversations end with everyone trying to low-energy troll each other?" and I realized it's because there's no reason to have a conversation with these people. So, hell, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Anyone who makes over $90k is both a pedophile and a war criminal, and if we were any kind of real democracy we'd flog them on YouTube. We're going to run out of potable water unless Biden implements Medicare4All, and the Supreme Court should be abolished in lieu of a sort of American Idol style public opinion poll. Open Borders is a neoliberal shill policy put forth by oligarchs. We should subsidize plane rides into america. A class system will be formalized not by money, but by how sustainable your diet is. And any candidate that doesn't support this is a fascist.