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Old 11-04-2020, 03:09 PM   #1091 (permalink)
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Let me just ask...

how many thousands of absurd “that will never work - that will never happen” things has Trump pulled off

He never fails.

All the way back to openly admitting he obstructed justice to Lester Holt right on television. Right there that should’ve been prison. Hundreds if not thousands since then.

Of course he doesn’t need to win the election to stay in power. We’ve never had the courage to stop anything he does. From obstructing justice to breathing infected covid on people. It’s the worship of authority and position.

Seriously - I hope I’m wrong. I really do.
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Old 11-04-2020, 03:14 PM   #1092 (permalink)
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Let me just ask...

how many thousands of absurd “that will never work - that will never happen” things has Trump pulled off

He never fails.

All the way back to openly admitting he obstructed justice to Lester Holt right on television. Right there that should’ve been prison. Hundreds if not thousands since then.

Of course he doesn’t need to win the election to stay in power. We’ve never had the courage to stop anything he does. From obstructing justice to breathing infected covid on people. It’s the worship of authority and position.

Seriously - I hope I’m wrong. I really do.
I know, that's why I'm worried anyway
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Old 11-04-2020, 03:14 PM   #1093 (permalink)
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They won't go their own way because that just splits the left and helps the right. Same with the libertarians on the other side. That's what I mean when I say the system inherently favors two party rule.
I see your point, but that's a political calculation that any splinter group makes. Perhaps they are thinking ahead to being the small group that swings a lot of big decisions between the two big boys.
Also, I'm not really sure, but I think in the UK they sometimes enter into local non-contesting pacts, so as not to split the support of a party they sympathize with. (Please don't google me on that!)
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Old 11-04-2020, 03:16 PM   #1094 (permalink)
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Is it really that likely that his lawsuit request will be granted? I mean, the whole undemocratic attitude is scary either way
Idk but I think it’s very possible

Especially because absurdity has been our MO for four years

And his language sells

“Just until we see what’s going on” “just until we make sure it’s fair” “a lot of problems with the mail in processes” “the dems are trying to block democracy” “we need officials to oversee the process under real fair supervision” “why are the democrats afraid of scrutiny? What are they hiding?”

... and on and on

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Old 11-04-2020, 04:50 PM   #1095 (permalink)
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I've yet to talk to a Trump supporter that doesn't believe the whole mail in fraud thing
Have you spoken to any that haven't had a FULL dose of the Kool-Aid? I haven't so far, but there must be a few somewhere.
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Old 11-04-2020, 06:31 PM   #1096 (permalink)
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Let me just ask...

how many thousands of absurd “that will never work - that will never happen” things has Trump pulled off

He never fails.

All the way back to openly admitting he obstructed justice to Lester Holt right on television. Right there that should’ve been prison. Hundreds if not thousands since then.

Of course he doesn’t need to win the election to stay in power. We’ve never had the courage to stop anything he does. From obstructing justice to breathing infected covid on people. It’s the worship of authority and position.

Seriously - I hope I’m wrong. I really do.
Yes, except in all instances you're talking about, the only option was a willing Senate. In this instance, it's three states, all of which have Dem governors, and they get the last call. Historically speaking, courts don't like to overturn elections. Florida in 2000 was not a verdict to overturn. Michigan and Wisconsin are being called, and PA while still possibly screw-up-able, three things are different from Gore-Bush:

1. Again, it's a dem governor
2. The secretary of state in PA is not working for the Trump Campaign
3. Trump's brother is not the governor of PA.

It's not a done deal, and yeah, I'm worried, but the one upshot now is that the Democrats have been rat ****ed in 2 elections in the past 20 years and they've learned the hard way what the GOP does.

And to their benefit, this WH is incompetent when it comes to pulling off scams, e.g. Burisma.
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so if biden wins NV and ARZ is it over ..???? if trump wins georiga penn and NC ..???
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Mad respect to Biden for coming into this and proving everyone wrong. It's a tight race but it is enough. That's all that matters. Itll be nice to not have to see that orange pig ever again.
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Yes, except in all instances you're talking about, the only option was a willing Senate. In this instance, it's three states, all of which have Dem governors, and they get the last call. Historically speaking, courts don't like to overturn elections. Florida in 2000 was not a verdict to overturn. Michigan and Wisconsin are being called, and PA while still possibly screw-up-able, three things are different from Gore-Bush:

1. Again, it's a dem governor
2. The secretary of state in PA is not working for the Trump Campaign
3. Trump's brother is not the governor of PA.

It's not a done deal, and yeah, I'm worried, but the one upshot now is that the Democrats have been rat ****ed in 2 elections in the past 20 years and they've learned the hard way what the GOP does.

And to their benefit, this WH is incompetent when it comes to pulling off scams, e.g. Burisma.
I’m starting to think Trump can’t pull it off. The courts probably aren’t interested.

Still nervous
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so if biden wins NV and ARZ is it over ..???? if trump wins georiga penn and NC ..???
Yes. NV and AZ will equal 270 and that’s the magic number
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