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Old 11-04-2020, 03:09 PM   #1081 (permalink)
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I say we stop counting right now...and call Biden president.

They're literally chanting stop the count in a state Biden is WINNING.
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Old 11-04-2020, 03:13 PM   #1082 (permalink)
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Old 11-04-2020, 03:15 PM   #1083 (permalink)
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The American system is basically inherently inclined towards two parties. We would have to completely revamp the system to something more akin to a parliament to make 3rd parties truly viable imo. Which would require what exactly? Amending the Constitution? I'm honestly unclear on the specifics of how you could do that.
I don't know that any big constitutional change would be necessary; just enough willing /popular politicians to go their own way. If Bernie Saunders and The Squad split from the Dems, for example, they could be a third party, or if a bunch of independents got together.

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There are inherent pros and cons to a parliamentary system as well. Instead of the ideal of more sides being heard what often happens is alliances between parties to secure power that essentially breaks down as a de facto two party or two coalitions of parties rule, which can often give more leverage to a smaller conservative party the same way our electoral college does.
Yep, the UK routinely has a third political party, typically with just a few seats, but often important enough to be wooed, issue by issue, into supporting one of the 2 main parties. Works OK, afaik, and contributes to a plurality of voices, though, as I think you're suggesting, a small party can find itself lucky enough to tip the balance in a way that's disproportionate to its size.
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Old 11-04-2020, 03:24 PM   #1084 (permalink)
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They won't go their own way because that just splits the left and helps the right. Same with the libertarians on the other side. That's what I mean when I say the system inherently favors two party rule.
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Old 11-04-2020, 03:26 PM   #1085 (permalink)
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That is true. I guess the many-party system only works when the government is a coalition of multiple parties
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Old 11-04-2020, 03:30 PM   #1086 (permalink)
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Looks like they're calling Michigan.

Biden doesn't need PA now.
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Old 11-04-2020, 03:32 PM   #1087 (permalink)
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Protesters trying to get into the Detroit locations chanting "Stop the Count".
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Old 11-04-2020, 03:36 PM   #1088 (permalink)
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Wtf why do they want to stop the count?
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Old 11-04-2020, 03:37 PM   #1089 (permalink)
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I expect more.
Why? This is just how such a society functions. Expecting anything different is just wishful thinking. You might as well just pray for human nature to change.
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Wtf why do they want to stop the count?
They literally do not understand how things work.
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