2020 US Election Thread

[Lisnaholic]

Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks

Trump to lie soon from the WH.

ftfy Soundgarden

[OccultHawk]

Pennsylvania can’t get their votes counted fast enough to avoid getting it sent to the Supreme Court that he personally stacked.

Once the Supreme Court rubber stamps him and he keeps the senate it’s a full dictatorship

Honestly- tell me the path

The good news is I’m almost done posting or thinking about politics.

Voting. Protesting. All of it is a big ****ing waste.

[Lisnaholic]

Originally Posted by Stephen

If you dip**** ****s vote for four more years of this arsehole you can stick your heads up your arse and **** off because I’ve had it with that ****ing moron and you deserve whatever **** you get. See you in four years you ****tards.

By your recent standards, this is unusually verbose for you, Stephen !

Perhaps I'd use calmer language myself, but I think, on the global stage, it's a commonly held opinion: electing Trump once could be excused as an error of judgement, as being naively taken in by a conman. Voting him back into office, with full knowledge, would indicate an alarming shift in American attitudes.

Originally Posted by jwb

Nobody has close to the military capability of the US.

That includes everything from hardware to bases worldwide.

But a key part of that is the US Naval empire, inherited by the Brits after world war 2, through which we control the vast majority of international trade routes.

The other major part being the r&d for new weapons systems by which we help subsidize all the other world militaries by having the top technology and then exporting it overseas.

The vacuum question is real and has already been observed. See: Russia invading crimea. They wouldn't have dared that during the cold war. Once our attention was diverted to the middle east and they were fearful of losing crimea to a regime not sympathetic to the Kremlin, they considered it necessary to invade.

I wouldn't argue with this appraisal of the role of the USA, though I'm not clear about the bold bit.

But how much importance should we attach to world dominance? After all, the USSR was a world power second only to the US, but that fact didn't do much good to gulag victim, Ivan Denisovich or millions of impoverished soviets. When it comes to quality of life for its citizens, a country's global position may only have an indirect effect.

Look at New Zealand; a small isolated country without military might or many exports (apart from lamb chops). They have only had one mass shooting event and within weeks the government enacted restrictive gunlaws to protect their citizens. They clamped down so effectively on covid that they have been able to return to normal life, afaik.

Powerful homeland or not, who, in the US or Europe, doesn't feel a twinge of envy when they hear about NZ ? In that sense, they are the true world leaders.

[SGR]

If Biden holds NV, MI, WI, and AZ he wins.

MI and WI have flipped blue.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks

If Biden holds NV, MI, WI, and AZ he wins.

MI and WI have flipped blue.

Biden could win all of them and Trump can demand recounts install fear and confusion get it sent to courts stacked in his favor and Trump will stay in office a true dictator.

[Anteater]

I added up what's left. Biden looks like he's on track for exactly 270. Trump looks somewhere around 264. Biden clearly wins.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Anteater

I added up what's left. Biden looks like he's on track for exactly 270. Trump looks somewhere around 264. Biden clearly wins.

I’ll believe it when he’s sworn in.

[Exo]

Originally Posted by Anteater

I added up what's left. Biden looks like he's on track for exactly 270. Trump looks somewhere around 264. Biden clearly wins.

Looking this way although there's still a chance Biden wins GA and PA. Insanely. Looks like he'll hold NV,AZ,MI, and WI.

[Lisnaholic]

Originally Posted by Anteater

I added up what's left. Biden looks like he's on track for exactly 270. Trump looks somewhere around 264. Biden clearly wins.

First time I'm not going to take issue with one of your political posts, Anteater! You are clearly a more astute observer of US politics than I previously thought

[SGR]

Will Wisconsin need to have a recount? It's likely