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Old 11-04-2020, 10:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Yes, until someone explains to me why 4 *******s are better than 2, I'm not going to virtual signal the greatness of two "parties" that cover 25% of the issues and refuse to do the hard work of getting people into the House.
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Old 11-04-2020, 11:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes, until someone explains to me why 4 *******s are better than 2, I'm not going to virtual signal the greatness of two "parties" that cover 25% of the issues and refuse to do the hard work of getting people into the House.
Well if each ******* covers 25% of the issues, then four actually sounds like just what we need.
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Old 11-04-2020, 11:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What could be better than covering 100% of the issues?

Are you suggesting that we go all the way to 125% with five *******s? Because that's where I have to draw the line.
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Old 11-04-2020, 12:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The American system is basically inherently inclined towards two parties. We would have to completely revamp the system to something more akin to a parliament to make 3rd parties truly viable imo. Which would require what exactly? Amending the Constitution? I'm honestly unclear on the specifics of how you could do that.

There are inherent pros and cons to a parliamentary system as well. Instead of the ideal of more sides being heard what often happens is alliances between parties to secure power that essentially breaks down as a de facto two party or two coalitions of parties rule, which can often give more leverage to a smaller conservative party the same way our electoral college does.

I'm undecided on the issue btw I just think it's less clear cut than you might presume.
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Old 11-04-2020, 02:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The American system is basically inherently inclined towards two parties. We would have to completely revamp the system to something more akin to a parliament to make 3rd parties truly viable imo. Which would require what exactly? Amending the Constitution? I'm honestly unclear on the specifics of how you could do that.
I don't know that any big constitutional change would be necessary; just enough willing /popular politicians to go their own way. If Bernie Saunders and The Squad split from the Dems, for example, they could be a third party, or if a bunch of independents got together.

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There are inherent pros and cons to a parliamentary system as well. Instead of the ideal of more sides being heard what often happens is alliances between parties to secure power that essentially breaks down as a de facto two party or two coalitions of parties rule, which can often give more leverage to a smaller conservative party the same way our electoral college does.
Yep, the UK routinely has a third political party, typically with just a few seats, but often important enough to be wooed, issue by issue, into supporting one of the 2 main parties. Works OK, afaik, and contributes to a plurality of voices, though, as I think you're suggesting, a small party can find itself lucky enough to tip the balance in a way that's disproportionate to its size.
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2016 - Illegal votes could be counted!

2020 - Legal votes could be counted!

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It’s time to start thinking about violent solutions.
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It’s time to start thinking about violent solutions.
A tournament of Mortal Kombat where the winner gets to be president.
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Biden won Wisconsin!

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