Hong Kong and China

OccultHawk · 08-20-2019, 10:29 AM

America is worse than China. I’m not talking just domestic human rights. I mean the entire creature. Military, foreign policy, politics of devastation.

My understanding of the Hong Kong protestors is that they in general want an American style democracy. Can’t get with that.

Oriphiel · 08-20-2019, 11:40 AM

Feel like we've already gone over this before.

You start pretending that you know about China 'cause you spent a week down in Hong Kong twenty years ago banging hookers or whatever. I drop a bunch of sources showing how horribly corrupt and unregulated **** is on the mainland, how China has become much more capitalistic than America, and how the government is almost objectively worse than the US on pretty much every level, to the point where they're actively an extreme example of how a capitalist society can go completely off the wire. You back off without even admitting that you were wrong. And then a couple weeks later, it's the same **** all over again.

~~jwb~~ · 08-20-2019, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

America is worse than China. I’m not talking just domestic human rights. I mean the entire creature. Military, foreign policy, politics of devastation.

My understanding of the Hong Kong protestors is that they in general want an American style democracy. Can’t get with that.

You don't think that choice should be more up to them to make than you? How very authoritarian of you.

The Batlord · 08-20-2019, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

America is worse than China. I’m not talking just domestic human rights. I mean the entire creature. Military, foreign policy, politics of devastation.

My understanding of the Hong Kong protestors is that they in general want an American style democracy. Can’t get with that.

You just want America to be worse because you're emotionally tied to your suffering being the most important thing in the world. Quit being a bitch.

OccultHawk · 08-20-2019, 10:04 PM

America has 5 holocausts under its young belt.

Slavery
Native Genocide
Mexican War
Bikini Atoll
Vietnam Cambodia Laos

America has the highest prison population and prisons that are horrifying and savage by any standard

America’s worst neighborhoods are far more dangerous than anywhere in China

America has the largest nuclear arsenal by far

America has is constantly at war. Endless war is a cornerstone of our foreign policy.

American habits have devastated south and Central America with our endless demand for cocaine, palm oil, and beef.

Africans whose ancestors profited off the slave trade still oppress families that were devastated by kidnapping.

America has singlehandedly caused irreversible damage through green house emmisions

America has the most billionaires which is the direct cause of constant slow moving holocausts like starvation in India, Indonesia and so on and high child mortality rates around the world through malnutrition and dysentery.

America has aggressively made it impossible through intervention for Marxist visions to be realized. In fact, if America wasn’t so obsessed with crushing communism Maoism wouldn’t have been so insanely dogmatic. Same with Stalinism.

America probably has played a greater role in the oppression of the Chinese than the Chinese government. Same with Russia, Cuba and many others.

It’s not even remotely close that America is the greatest menace on the planet and a horrible role model.

The demonstrators in Hong Kong need a genuine vision. From the bottom of my heart I say **** American democracy.

**Frownland** · 08-20-2019, 10:14 PM

Hong Kong can't be independent of China because they're going to kill a bunch of Native Americans and go to war with Mexico.

We're obviously the fourth reich but come on now.

OccultHawk · 08-20-2019, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Hong Kong can't be independent of China because they're going to kill a bunch of Native Americans and go to war with Mexico.

We're obviously the fourth reich but come on now.

Unless the demonstrators disavow any solidarity with America I’m not interested in their cause. If they want to be in a friendly relationship with our government as it stands now I oppose their effort.

**Frownland** · 08-20-2019, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Unless the demonstrators disavow any solidarity with America I’m not interested in their cause. If they want to be in a friendly relationship with our government as it stands now I oppose their effort.

So you support enforced solidarity with America II because of Hong Kong's solidarity with America, got it.

The Batlord · 08-20-2019, 10:27 PM

And yet I would rather live in America and so would you, you stupid, stupid ****.

OccultHawk · 08-20-2019, 10:31 PM

Hundreds of millions of Chinese have better lives than me.

So no. I’d rather live in Shanghai, for sure.

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08-20-2019, 10:04 PM	#55 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	America has 5 holocausts under its young belt. Slavery Native Genocide Mexican War Bikini Atoll Vietnam Cambodia Laos America has the highest prison population and prisons that are horrifying and savage by any standard America’s worst neighborhoods are far more dangerous than anywhere in China America has the largest nuclear arsenal by far America has is constantly at war. Endless war is a cornerstone of our foreign policy. American habits have devastated south and Central America with our endless demand for cocaine, palm oil, and beef. Africans whose ancestors profited off the slave trade still oppress families that were devastated by kidnapping. America has singlehandedly caused irreversible damage through green house emmisions America has the most billionaires which is the direct cause of constant slow moving holocausts like starvation in India, Indonesia and so on and high child mortality rates around the world through malnutrition and dysentery. America has aggressively made it impossible through intervention for Marxist visions to be realized. In fact, if America wasn’t so obsessed with crushing communism Maoism wouldn’t have been so insanely dogmatic. Same with Stalinism. America probably has played a greater role in the oppression of the Chinese than the Chinese government. Same with Russia, Cuba and many others. It’s not even remotely close that America is the greatest menace on the planet and a horrible role model. The demonstrators in Hong Kong need a genuine vision. From the bottom of my heart I say **** American democracy. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

08-20-2019, 10:14 PM	#56 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Hong Kong can't be independent of China because they're going to kill a bunch of Native Americans and go to war with Mexico. We're obviously the fourth reich but come on now. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

08-20-2019, 10:31 PM	#60 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	Hundreds of millions of Chinese have better lives than me. So no. I’d rather live in Shanghai, for sure. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html