Hong Kong and China

Psy-Fi · 06-24-2020, 08:26 AM

China’s annual dog meat festival kicks off

OccultHawk · 09-06-2020, 03:56 AM

Death to Jimmy Lai!

Norg · 09-06-2020, 11:29 AM

i wonder why u dont see protest in Macau the Portuguese owned that city and gave it back

idk if this is the same concept but take for example new Orleans why used to be the main french port town france sold it but do u see the residents in nola crying cus of thecway Americas rules are layed out???

Psy-Fi · 09-07-2020, 07:35 AM

Hong Kong protests: Police tackle 12-year-old girl to the ground

OccultHawk · 09-08-2020, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

the Chinese gov is terrifying

if I were in Hong Kong I might elect to die in protest if I couldn't get leave altogether

Man you should try to get the chance to go see it for yourself. That is the incredible power of US capitalist propaganda speaking so hard. For an American to describe any government other than our own terrifying (I’m assuming you mean terrifying relative to our own government) is so misinformed it’s mind blowing. If you were fortunate enough to land a teaching position in China your life would improve 1000% over your life in America. Not even saying the rest of China isn’t but Hong Kong is totally a grind your life away or die capitalist soul destroyer society of money worship and greed. I don’t know what it is. If you think because you can vote or post something on the internet you have more freedom than the Chinese. It’s all bull****. If you threaten the power structure here you go straight to prison. How the **** can you conclude that’s any different? Because you can vote for Biden?

OccultHawk · 09-08-2020, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Guess I am just a good ole American boy in how important I think opposition rights and free speech are

it's true that our capitalist mechanisms can be as opressive as any government, a Credit Score can be as restrictive and controlling as a Social Credit Score

but Trump hasn't been able to electro-shock his political opponents (yet)

He doesn’t have domestic political opponents. Not in terms of changing the foundation of the toxicity he represents.

Btw, this is American treatment of people with opposing political views:

I’m not saying the protestors arrested by the feds are going Abu Ghraib or Gitmo but how do you think you’d fare in federal prison?

Free speech? It’s ****ing worthless. How many years of nothing ever changing do you need to see?

**Marie Monday** · 09-08-2020, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Man you should try to get the chance to go see it for yourself. That is the incredible power of US capitalist propaganda speaking so hard. For an American to describe any government other than our own terrifying (I’m assuming you mean terrifying relative to our own government) is so misinformed it’s mind blowing. If you were fortunate enough to land a teaching position in China your life would improve 1000% over your life in America. Not even saying the rest of China isn’t but Hong Kong is totally a grind your life away or die capitalist soul destroyer society of money worship and greed. I don’t know what it is. If you think because you can vote or post something on the internet you have more freedom than the Chinese. It’s all bull****. If you threaten the power structure here you go straight to prison. How the **** can you conclude that’s any different? Because you can vote for Biden?

How does that make the statement that the Chinese government is terrifying untrue? It is. Would a government that cares about its people let them work basically as dehumanised slaves in factories of large corporations? Maybe your or elph's life would improve when you'd move to China (although I doubt that) but from what I know it's a soul destroying capitalist place just like America but with less freedom of speech. I have to admit I don't know much about China though

The Batlord · 09-08-2020, 07:07 AM

OH: I spent a weekend in China, you can't tell me ****!

OccultHawk · 09-08-2020, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday

How does that make the statement that the Chinese government is terrifying untrue? It is. Would a government that cares about its people let them work basically as dehumanised slaves in factories of large corporations? Maybe your or elph's life would improve when you'd move to China (although I doubt that) but from what I know it's a soul destroying capitalist place just like America but with less freedom of speech. I have to admit I don't know much about China though

If white people are able to land jobs in China they’re treated like royalty compared to life in America. If you just go there with nothing set up and overstay you’re visa they just throw you out. They don’t lock you in a concentration camp like America does.

I’m not even trying to argue the Chinese government isn’t terrifying (right now) but just for an American who works graveyard at 7/11 to say that has a wild misconception of what China really is. They have a middle class the size of America all of whom enjoy a more comfortable existence than a low wage worker in America. The internet is censored but you can read whatever you want in print and you can listen to whatever music you like.

As far as their slave factory workers. It’s like pretty much exactly the same as our prison and work release labor. You get put on work release you have absolutely no choice. You HAVE to go to work, often in gulag (and I am NOT being hyperbolic) conditions.

If you got a job in China with all your language skills if you learned just half ass Chinese you’d have a great life. At least, compared to mine. I’ll admit people would snub you socially or see you just as a foreign pet or novelty and would consider your lesbianism as a strange foreign idiosyncrasy but believe me no one would ever touch you. You could walk through the largest cities in China alone at all hours free of fear of crime. Where I live a woman needs an escort just to walk to her car at night. Wtf kind of freedom is that?

OccultHawk · 09-08-2020, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

OH: I spent a weekend in China, you can't tell me ****!

Bat: I saw China portrayed in American media, you can’t tell me ****!

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Norg Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,358	i wonder why u dont see protest in Macau the Portuguese owned that city and gave it back idk if this is the same concept but take for example new Orleans why used to be the main french port town france sold it but do u see the residents in nola crying cus of thecway Americas rules are layed out???