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**Frownland** · 09-15-2019, 07:00 PM

There's this guy who keeps telling me that The Fall is the best band ever but I know that that's just propaganda and I'm not gonna get tricked. That's how I know they suck.

~~jwb~~ · 09-15-2019, 07:02 PM

The fall is a good band IMO. Just overrated by internet hipsters.

**Frownland** · 09-15-2019, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

"Hipsters" bleh

word still doesn't mean anything

It is and it isn't. I wouldn't call you a hipster.

~~jwb~~ · 09-15-2019, 07:14 PM

So you don't know what propaganda is. Gotcha.

~~jwb~~ · 09-15-2019, 07:18 PM

No u

**Frownland** · 09-15-2019, 07:24 PM

I mean it is propaganda but it's disingenuous to describe it as such.

~~jwb~~ · 09-15-2019, 07:27 PM

Once again propaganda is not necessarily pro state.

Any tract that is expressly designed to instill you with a given ideology is propaganda.

~~jwb~~ · 09-15-2019, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland

I mean it is propaganda but it's disingenuous to describe it as such.

Congrats on being disingenuous.

~~jwb~~ · 09-15-2019, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

no that's not even the actual definition

ignoring that it's glaringly obvious what type of propaganda is actually relevant here

uhhh Google gives me this

information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

Which is pretty much what I said.

~~jwb~~ · 09-15-2019, 08:05 PM

It's actually a rather subjective distinction

But the more biased and one sided, the more it serves as propaganda

Clearly you were under the rather naive assumption that propaganda is an inherently negative thing

That's a modern revisionist interpretation

09-15-2019, 07:00 PM	#211 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	There's this guy who keeps telling me that The Fall is the best band ever but I know that that's just propaganda and I'm not gonna get tricked. That's how I know they suck. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

09-15-2019, 07:24 PM	#216 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I mean it is propaganda but it's disingenuous to describe it as such. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

09-15-2019, 07:02 PM	#212 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	The fall is a good band IMO. Just overrated by internet hipsters.

09-15-2019, 07:14 PM	#214 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	So you don't know what propaganda is. Gotcha.

09-15-2019, 07:18 PM	#215 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	No u

09-15-2019, 07:27 PM	#217 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Once again propaganda is not necessarily pro state. Any tract that is expressly designed to instill you with a given ideology is propaganda.

09-15-2019, 08:05 PM	#220 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	It's actually a rather subjective distinction But the more biased and one sided, the more it serves as propaganda Clearly you were under the rather naive assumption that propaganda is an inherently negative thing That's a modern revisionist interpretation