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Old 04-04-2019, 03:30 PM   #71 (permalink)
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It was analagous to using a false analogy.
You need to get more epistemological
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Old 04-04-2019, 03:32 PM   #72 (permalink)
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You're comparing the concept of free will to the concept of magic, that's an analogy.
No I'm point blank saying that free will is magic. There is no analogy. If I say a car is an automobile I'm not comparing cars and automobiles.
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Old 04-04-2019, 03:32 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Insulting somebody's intelligence over and over again doesn't work as evidence, you know that right?
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Lucem, you're right, it's silly to talk about what I would or wouldn't do IRL. Glad you brought it up. Maybe you should write an instrumental about it. I recommend a piano paired with a clarinet. With ambient sounds of you hanging from your shower curtain you ****ing failure.

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Old 04-04-2019, 03:32 PM   #74 (permalink)
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No I'm point blank saying that free will is magic. There is no analogy. If I say a car is an automobile I'm not comparing cars and automobiles.
Except that free will would be natural.
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But it works for Frown?
He's the only one here that was able to provide information.
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But it works for Frown?
I don't make people feel stupid on purpose, it's just a common result of discussing people's ideas.
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Except that free will would be natural.
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Why?
It'd be a matter of consciousness which is natural.
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Except that free will would be natural.
For free will to be meaningful and worth having a word to describe it it would have to give humans the ability to make decisions free of any kind of influence which amounts to breaking the laws of the universe. Ergo magic.

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That proved nothing except that the brain is way complicated, yo.
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