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Old 04-04-2019, 02:56 PM   #41 (permalink)
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The moon's aura clearly indicates that it has a soul and therefore is conscious.
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Old 04-04-2019, 02:57 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Ya'll are really this bitter about being told you don't know?
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Old 04-04-2019, 02:58 PM   #43 (permalink)
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The position that there is no conclusive evidence on whether or not free will exists?
Yes. It’s retarded. If you believe in free will you’re a ****ing moron. It’s self evident. The issue is closed. Not understanding it only shows that the person is stupid.
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Old 04-04-2019, 02:58 PM   #44 (permalink)
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The point of no return in vetoing self-initiated movements

Predetermination requires as much evidence as free will. I don't think that it's either/or.
Predetermination only requires evidence if you're coming from an emotional viewpoint influenced by religious concepts of both free will and predetermination. And yes it is either/or. Free will is a magical concept that is meaningless if you water it down to just some form of "not having a gun to your head".

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Well the moon isn't conscious as far as we know.
Consciousness is a nebulous concept humans invented and don't even understand.
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Old 04-04-2019, 02:59 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Ya'll are really this bitter about being told you don't know?
I do know. So does everyone who can think.
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Old 04-04-2019, 02:59 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Your position doesn’t warrant a serious response.
The quote that said that science had proven it was actually your position. So you were just posturing or...?
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Old 04-04-2019, 03:01 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Consciousness is a nebulous concept humans invented and don't even understand
That’s a conversation worth having.
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Old 04-04-2019, 03:01 PM   #48 (permalink)
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So ****ing what.
Whether or not you will veto is still deterministic.
How can this be proved in an unfalsifiable manner?

Quit fighting dogma with dogma.
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Old 04-04-2019, 03:01 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Hmm. It's weird that even the neural scientists that conducted the studies say that they don't know if free will exists or not but it's good to know that you guys have the answer to a question that's a bit more abstract than you're giving credit for.

It's totally not narcissistic in any way.
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The quote that said that science had proven it was actually your position. So you were just posturing or...?
I proved it in an experiment where I dropped a napkin and it landed where it landed.
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