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Old 04-04-2019, 02:48 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Quit being dishonest. Free will is a concept that must be proven. A deterministic universe is simply a naturalistic one and that should be the default position until evidence is provided to show otherwise. The only reason anyone thinks differently is because humans are so used to assuming that free will exists that they erroneously consider it to be the default position. You're making this WWWWAAAAYYYY more convoluted than it needs to be.
Why are you holding him accountable?
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Old 04-04-2019, 02:49 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Quit being dishonest. Free will is a concept that must be proven. A deterministic universe is simply a naturalistic one and that should be the default position until evidence is provided to show otherwise. The only reason anyone thinks differently is because humans are so used to assuming that free will exists that they erroneously consider it to be the default position. You're making this WWWWAAAAYYYY more convoluted than it needs to be.
But there’s a study that says there’s a two second neural relapse delay!
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Old 04-04-2019, 02:49 PM   #33 (permalink)
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But there’s a study that says there’s a two second neural relapse delay!
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Science has proven it.
Still waiting.
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Old 04-04-2019, 02:50 PM   #34 (permalink)
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The point of no return in vetoing self-initiated movements

Predetermination requires as much evidence as free will. I don't think that it's either/or.
Prove the moon doesn’t monitor its own orbit. The onus is on you.
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Old 04-04-2019, 02:52 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Well the moon isn't conscious as far as we know.
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Old 04-04-2019, 02:53 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Prove the moon doesn’t monitor its own orbit. The onus is on you.
So what you're saying is that science hasn't proven it.

This false dilemma is on you mate.
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The position that there is no conclusive evidence on whether or not free will exists?
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The point of no return in vetoing self-initiated movements

Predetermination requires as much evidence as free will. I don't think that it's either/or.
So ****ing what.
Whether or not you will veto is still deterministic.
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Well the moon isn't conscious as far as we know.
Well we can’t assume anything!
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