Opting Out Of Parenthood

~~[MERIT]~~ · 12-02-2018, 12:23 AM

If a woman gets pregnant and decides that she wants to opt out of being a parent, she can get an abortion.

If a man knocks up a woman and decides that he wants to opt out of being a parent, he gets stuck with 18 years worth of child support. Call it $250 USD/month, that is a total payment of $54,000 USD.

I know that all cases are different, but does anyone else see a problem with this system?

And don't try to light me up, intimating that I'm against people paying their fair share for their kids, because that's not the issue here. I'm talking about equal rights for men and women, as far as parenting goes. And equal responsibilities, as well.

~~MicShazam~~ · 12-02-2018, 01:26 AM

It's in her body, so it's her call.
Men opt out of parenthood by keeping their sauce out of the pot.

The Batlord · 12-02-2018, 03:20 AM

So how was putting up the tree with your son?

~~[MERIT]~~ · 12-02-2018, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg

So how was putting up the tree with your son?

Well, a hose underneath my kitchen sick exploded. Had to wait around all day for the plumber to put in a new faucet. By the time he was done and I got the mess cleaned up, made dinner, took a shower, put laundry up and my son took a bath and brushed his teeth, it was late, so we decided not to put the tree up. He went back to his mom's today. I'll probably set everything out the night before he comes over next time so that we can put the tree up and decorate it together. Thank you for your genuine interest. I really appreciate it. I'm obviously being sarcastic in response to your trolling. Go choke on a dick.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Voluntary sterilization should be rewarded as well for men and women.

That's definitely an interesting concept that I've never considered. Very New World Order / Thousand Points Of Light / Illuminati of you LOL. But, the fact is, we CAN support ALL of the people on this planet, we are just mis-managing our resources.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I actually do think it’s reasonable for the man to be able to say I want this baby aborted.

You see, this is the dilemma to which I was referring. A man and a woman get pregnant. If the woman decides to opt out, she can get an abortion. If the man decides to opt out, he gets stuck with a lifetime of monetary enslavement. Even if he terminates his parental rights to the child, he is still on the hook for child support.

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Originally Posted by elphenor

men do have vasectomy as an option

Freeze your sperm for when you're ready to be a parent and get a vasectomy. That's probably the best plan that I've heard yet. Good lookin' out homie

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

Merit - "I would never hit a woman. Unless she was acting like a BITCH."

GTFOH. I've never laid a hand on a woman in a bad way in my life, but if a bitch was trying to take my life, you bet your ass she'd catch these hands. If you let political correctness override common sense survival, then you're a dumbass and deserve whatever you get.

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Originally Posted by elphenor

the irony that the answer to Merit's problem also makes one no longer a man in his eyes

maybe child support payments are the defining attribute of masculinity

Nice job putting words in my mouth. If you're gonna hate, at least have a little self respect and don't half-ass it.

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

Not prepared to have a kid? Dont have one. Usually people make that decision beforehand. So...deal with it. Life isn't fair sometimes. My older brother abandoned his son and his family for drugs and jail time and he owes a **** ton of money for child support. I recommend not going that route.

Right. So you don't think he should be alloted the same legal options as the child's mother? If the roles were reversed, she could have aborted it and that would be the end of the discussion. Trust me, I know that what I'm advocating sounds sh!tty, but if we want fair practices under the law and for the law to apply equally to everyone, then we should allot men the same legal right that women have to opt out of parenthood.

Either ban voluntary abortions or give fathers the legal right to opt out. That's the only way to make things fair under the law.

Right now, if a father wants to opt out, the choices are either to force the mother to get an abortion, or a lifetime of monetary payments against his will. Maybe we could save some lives by reducing abortions if we have another option? I guess that putting the child up for adoption is also another way to go.

Oriphiel · 12-02-2018, 06:19 PM

Merit - "I dream of the day I get attacked by a woman who looks like my emasculating ex-wife, so I can finally fulfill my fantasy of shooting her in the face without getting the chair."

windsock · 12-02-2018, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

Merit - "I dream of the day I get attacked by a woman who looks like my emasculating ex-wife, so I can finally fulfill my fantasy of shooting her in the face without getting the chair."

You should work in textiles with how much you spin things.

Oriphiel · 12-02-2018, 06:22 PM

Don't know why I even bother crafting quotes when the real ones are so much better

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Originally Posted by [MERIT]

Remove sex from a relationship and 90% of women have nothing to offer to men.

Nature intended for there to be only 2 genders: MALE and FEMALE.

OccultHawk · 12-02-2018, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

Don't know why I even bother crafting quotes when the real ones are so much better

Is that from this thread?

The Batlord · 12-02-2018, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT]

I'm obviously being sarcastic in response to your trolling. Go choke on a dick.

I'm just worried that your current troubles are making you think of a post hoc abortion.

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Right. So you don't think he should be alloted the same legal options as the child's mother? If the roles were reversed, she could have aborted it and that would be the end of the discussion. Trust me, I know that what I'm advocating sounds sh!tty, but if we want fair practices under the law and for the law to apply equally to everyone, then we should allot men the same legal right that women have to opt out of parenthood.

I'm sorry Crystal. But Gerald just isn't ready. Men, restrain her.

*readies coat hanger*

OccultHawk · 12-02-2018, 03:57 AM

I definitely think that if men didn’t have to pay child support more women would get abortions and that would be better. Abortions should be free and come with a nice box of steaks. Voluntary sterilization should be rewarded as well for men and women.

I actually do think it’s reasonable for the man to be able to say I want this baby aborted. If he does the state should take over child support if the woman and man agree to be sterilized.

Less people = mo better

12-02-2018, 12:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
~~[MERIT]~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 4,823	Opting Out Of Parenthood If a woman gets pregnant and decides that she wants to opt out of being a parent, she can get an abortion. If a man knocks up a woman and decides that he wants to opt out of being a parent, he gets stuck with 18 years worth of child support. Call it $250 USD/month, that is a total payment of $54,000 USD. I know that all cases are different, but does anyone else see a problem with this system? And don't try to light me up, intimating that I'm against people paying their fair share for their kids, because that's not the issue here. I'm talking about equal rights for men and women, as far as parenting goes. And equal responsibilities, as well.

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Oriphiel Ask me how! Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: The States Posts: 5,354	Merit - "I dream of the day I get attacked by a woman who looks like my emasculating ex-wife, so I can finally fulfill my fantasy of shooting her in the face without getting the chair." __________________ ---------------------- \|---Mic's Albums---\| ---------------------- ----------------------------- \|---Deafbox Industries---\| -----------------------------

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OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	I definitely think that if men didn’t have to pay child support more women would get abortions and that would be better. Abortions should be free and come with a nice box of steaks. Voluntary sterilization should be rewarded as well for men and women. I actually do think it’s reasonable for the man to be able to say I want this baby aborted. If he does the state should take over child support if the woman and man agree to be sterilized. Less people = mo better __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

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12-02-2018, 01:26 AM	#2 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	It's in her body, so it's her call. Men opt out of parenthood by keeping their sauce out of the pot.