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Zhanteimi 12-02-2018 07:44 PM

It's a shitshow on Reddit.

The Batlord 12-02-2018 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2020694)
it's kind of worse than incels

though I recently learned that comes with a whole ideology and is not just guys who can't get laid

they believe it has something to do with your jawline or something, it's ****in nutso


[MERIT] 12-02-2018 08:31 PM

Well, you guys turned this discussion about the complexities that arise amongst human reproductive rights, responsibilities, relationships and monetary entanglement . . . into a sh!t show. Bravo. Well done. Let me hear some more about how bad I am, via the things that I didn't say and the abuse of the transitive property.

The Batlord 12-02-2018 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 2020706)
Well, you guys turned this discussion about the complexities that arise amongst human reproductive rights, responsibilities, relationships and monetary entanglement . . . into a sh!t show. Bravo. Well done. Let me hear some more about how bad I am, via the things that I didn't say and the abuse of the transitive property.

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Frownland 12-02-2018 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 2020441)
If a woman gets pregnant and decides that she wants to opt out of being a parent, she can get an abortion.

If a man knocks up a woman and decides that he wants to opt out of being a parent, he gets stuck with 18 years worth of child support. Call it $250 USD/month, that is a total payment of $54,000 USD.

I know that all cases are different, but does anyone else see a problem with this system?

And don't try to light me up, intimating that I'm against people paying their fair share for their kids, because that's not the issue here. I'm talking about equal rights for men and women, as far as parenting goes. And equal responsibilities, as well.

Dude if she wants to keep it, just go through the motions and then once it's born, you can give the baby a few good shakes when no one's looking. Then you're free to ditch.

WWWP 12-02-2018 08:42 PM

There is no such thing as equality when one person has to carry and birth a fetus and the other is just worried there will be monetary consequences to their actions.

The Batlord 12-02-2018 08:59 PM

Equality is a kick to the belly.

windsock 12-02-2018 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2020713)
There is no such thing as equality when one person has to carry and birth a fetus and the other is just worried there will be monetary consequences to their actions.

Doesn't a viewpoint like this imply the importance of biology-based legislation? Last time I checked a lot of that directly conflicts with the typical new-wave feminist's brand of social equality.

Edit: mother****er I told myself I wouldn't argue

WWWP 12-02-2018 09:44 PM

I don't really subscribe to new wave feminism. I'm anti-procreation as well as antigovernment in general. Getting pregnant is just as bad as getting someone pregnant imo, but when it comes down to it it can only be the choice of the carrier whether to bring it to term.

windsock 12-02-2018 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2020722)
I don't really subscribe to new wave feminism. I'm anti-procreation as well as antigovernment in general. Getting pregnant is just as bad as getting someone pregnant imo, but when it comes down to it it can only be the choice of the carrier whether to bring it to term.

I was mainly pointing out how your logic is a bit slippery slope-ish can be re-appropriated to suit other biology-based mandates separate from the issue of child birth.

However I still find your opinion valuable and I appreciate you verifying it, no matter how much I may disagree.


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