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Old 12-05-2018, 02:18 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Elph sits in his dank apartment, half-buried in his moth-eaten armchair. In one hand he holds a Newkie Brown, half-drunk. In the other, he holds an eviction notice.

How did Elph get this way? Well turns out the girl who he drunkenly impregnated was unfortunately a bit too keen on the thought of the child. Even more unfortunately, she didn't even like Half Japanese. A girl who was incompatible with him bore his child for the full 9 months, and he bore the child support for the full 20 years. He was broke, about to become homeless, and completely whipped to the bone. All because of a child he never wanted.

"well," Elph said, taking a final sip. "it was her body and her choice, end of story."

And that truly was the end of Elph's story, because he died soon after at the ripe old age of 40 due to an unrelated anal cancer.
Glad he died, frankly.

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Old 12-05-2018, 03:20 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Weirdest overpopulation denial I’ve ever seen.
Was going to say something about how this is pretty eugenicist, but then I saw this

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So the pro lifer argument. Except with a sexist double standard. Interesting.
No. Literally its antithesis.

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I'm not deciding what happens to her body, I'm deciding what happens to the unborn body. I'm not telling her she can't have a baby, just that she can't have my baby. It's also infringing on my human right to force me into an obligation I never wanted. To completely exclude the man in any decisions on what happens to what could be his child is blatantly sexist over an over simplification of the issue. Having a child is not getting a piercing or a tattoo or a surgery. It doesn't only affect her and her body. It's a very selfish way of looking at it.
The *fetus* is not a baby. The fetus isn't even a functioning, conscious human -- the fetus has no ethical value, as it has no personhood, and might as well be a parasite. no human rights infringement; what *could be* your child isn't actually your child, insofar as it ain't a child at all.

The denial of a person's right to hold dominion over themselves and make their own choices about their own body, however? That's tantamount to slavery, I'd say.

What you "want", post-pregnancy, is irrelevant to what you did to cause said pregnancy in the first place. Which, in turn, is irrelevant to whether that pregnancy is carried to term or not. Consent to sex is not consent to childbirth.

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I'm not talking about forcing a woman to have a child.
Huh? So what do you propose is done when the man decides the woman ought to go through with the pregnancy?

Have you not given this any thought beyond the mere repetition of the sort of prattle you've been preaching up 'til now?
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Old 12-05-2018, 03:25 PM   #123 (permalink)
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Huh? So what do you propose is done when the man decides the woman ought to go through with the pregnancy?

Have you not given this any thought beyond the mere repetition of the sort of prattle you've been preaching up 'til now?
**** is about to go down!
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Old 12-05-2018, 03:26 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Old 12-05-2018, 03:29 PM   #125 (permalink)
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Fetuses are babies and babies are people and abortion is murder and I'm 100% fine with that.
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I like this person. Anyone who uses "prattle" freely is a git I can get behind.
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Fetuses are babies and babies are people and abortion is murder and I'm 100% fine with that.
As long as the person/baby/fetus/zygote consents.

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I like this person. Anyone who uses "prattle" freely is a git I can get behind.
How does "****prattle" sound? Was going to use that, but I thought it might tickle that git sensor too hard.
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Old 12-05-2018, 03:52 PM   #128 (permalink)
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FHow does "****prattle" sound? Was going to use that, but I thought it might tickle that git sensor too hard.
Cuntprattle? Shitprattle? Fuckprattle?
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Old 12-05-2018, 04:02 PM   #129 (permalink)
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Cuntprattle? Shitprattle? Fuckprattle?
Bleh. Whichever appeals will probably appeal for the wrong reasons, here. And if none of them do, it's just because you don't git it (git it? ha ha).
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I'm a 100% advocate for control over your own body

I'm for physician assisted suicide if that makes up for it on the other end
Are you pro-abortion? Because in that scenario, the baby has no control over its body, yet gets murdered. And are you pro-death penalty [for the same reason as abortion]?

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my gf mentioned she wouldn't mind having a son someday in the (distant) future
With you? Does she know that you shoot blanks?

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the fetus has no ethical value, as it has no personhood, and might as well be a parasite
That's fucked up. Some places give animals and Mother Earth legal rights, which cannot be infringed upon. And some places say that dolphins are non-human people. But a baby human being gets the finger from you. Wow.
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